All of the above

A process to define the broad shape of Brexit as supported by the electorate together with the real "red lines", followed then (and only then) by issuance of notification under A50, and a negotiation done by grown-ups.

Would have been nice.

It would have required politicians of all stripes to recognise that this foundational issue cuts across party lines, of course, and to run the whole thing outwith the normal structures.

Instead each has tried to use Brexit as leverage against the others. Predictably, this didn't work, because Labour and the Tories are as split and as incompetently led as each other, and the Lib Dems really don't matter any more.

The DUP's played a blinder, in terms of their own constituencies, I spose.

Posted By: Old Man on March 22nd 2019 at 18:14:09

Message Thread

Hi there wise folk of Wrath of the Parliament (General Chat) - Charles21, Mar 22, 13:34:41
- Not pandered to the elderly Tory bigots who make up the bulk of Conservative Party members (n/m) (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, Mar 22, 14:41:38
  - generalizations.... (General Chat) - usacanary, Mar 22, 15:16:19
    - Statement of fact. Average age of Conservative Party members is 72.5 (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, Mar 22, 16:04:54
- Ship of Fools (General Chat) - Moritz Moutarde, Mar 22, 14:23:00
  - As we have seen this week though (General Chat) - CWC, Mar 22, 14:48:24
  - “Abounding” (General Chat) - Moritz Moutarde, Mar 22, 14:24:08
- She should of resigned at let boris have it or someone that actually believed in brexit (General Chat) - Pukki Pies, Mar 22, 14:12:16
  - Sadly you have stated you don't follow politics (General Chat) - Charles21, Mar 22, 14:23:06
  - You are correct but Boris has zero chance I believe. (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary, Mar 22, 14:16:48
    - Dominic Raab is just a hard line as BJ. He's just marginally less revolting. (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, Mar 22, 14:59:07
      - Good points. I agree Raab (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary, Mar 22, 19:49:48
  - Yep belief is all that’s needed (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 22, 14:14:55
- Cancel Brexshit (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 22, 14:08:48
- well .. (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 22, 14:08:27
  - #4 (€€) had to happen whoever was in charge (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Mar 22, 14:52:19
    - yes, but not in that order (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 22, 15:10:09
  - Spot on. Good summary short enough for SCC to actually read! (n/m) (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary, Mar 22, 14:20:51
- She was always doomed to failure (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary, Mar 22, 13:51:36
  - Well, that’s certainly one interpretation but (General Chat) - Tressells Broadbrush, Mar 22, 16:11:03
    - "The peoples' willy". Boris? (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Mar 22, 19:40:41
    - I agree with your first two points. Can't agree on 3 (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary, Mar 22, 19:39:10
      - Thanks for taking the trouble to respond (General Chat) - Tressells Broadbrush, Mar 22, 20:24:58
  - Gave up at spirit 😂 (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 22, 13:54:06
- Resigning from politics in sympathy with the pig shagger (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 22, 13:50:14
- Agree with all below. She could also have talked to the actual people. (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Mar 22, 13:49:13
  - Yes (n/m) (General Chat) - Charles21, Mar 22, 14:06:47
  - Sadly the Labour party are also at fault here and played party politics (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary, Mar 22, 14:01:02
    - Vmt (General Chat) - CWC, Mar 22, 15:03:36
      - All of the above (General Chat) - Old Man, Mar 22, 18:14:09
- Her cunting red lines (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 22, 13:43:57
  - 'she' hates immigrants which is likely true, not all leave voters (n/m) (General Chat) - Dracula, Mar 22, 14:56:13
    - VMT (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 22, 15:03:02
  - Still trotting out the racist shit. Tiresome when you know this was a backlash against (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary, Mar 22, 13:55:24
    - Oh! (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 22, 13:59:13
      - Your point is! Anna Soubury is not regarded as a Tory even by the Tories (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary, Mar 22, 14:13:38
        
        The last 3 sentences of this post are so spot on. (n/m) (General Chat) - SeattleSounders, Mar 22, 14:50:57
        
        Thank you. Apologies for poor layout of text (n/m) (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary, Mar 22, 19:43:09
        
        And on top of that, had just left the Conservative Party (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 22, 14:17:51
        
        Too many words (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 22, 14:15:33
        
        Yup I knew you wouldnt read the final sentence. If you want people to (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary, Mar 22, 14:18:38
        
        erm, you forgot to (General Chat) - Chris Peacock, Mar 22, 14:33:12
        
        :-) (n/m) (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary, Mar 22, 14:34:09
        
        Be more succinct (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Mar 22, 14:23:42
        
        He was (General Chat) - CWC, Mar 22, 15:01:27
- Make the whole thing a cross party endeavour. (n/m) (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Mar 22, 13:42:57
  - This (General Chat) - CWC, Mar 22, 14:45:25
  - Getting her own party on board (or even her own cabinet) would have been handy (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 22, 14:13:54
    - Never going to happen Though. Mark Francois and Dominic Grieve were never going to agree. (n/m) (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, Mar 22, 14:39:31
- Given the rifts in Labour, she should've been aiming to win over their 'moderates' (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 22, 13:41:23
- she shouldn't have been so intransigent with her 'red lines' (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Mar 22, 13:40:24
  - ^^VMT ^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary, Mar 22, 13:57:27

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