It is clearly not acceptable for a sovereign nation to not
be able to extricate itself from an arrangement it has agreed to join under a treaty.
Raab is absolutely spot on. The use of the Ireland situation by the EU has in truth been pretty scandalous and the ineptitude of those negotiating on our behalf (admittedly not aided by the very unfortunate circumstance of the government having to rely on the DUP after fighting the sh*ttest election campaign in history) to have allowed us to be backed into a corner like this is also pretty staggering.
Sort out the future relationship and no backstop is needed. That should have been our stance right from the very beginning. Its breaking up the discussions into withdrawal, transition and future that has caused this mess and there is nothing within Article 50 or any treaty that said it has to be done like this.
As far as i'm concerned we either need to hard brexit or just say this is too difficult and have a second vote after which we will obviously vote to remain.
Posted By: Jim on November 15th 2018 at 10:19:46
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- Cheerio Theresa (Betting) (n/m) (Betting) - Chris Peacock, Nov 15, 08:58:14
- Daft thing is she has got a decent deal (Betting) - CWC, Nov 15, 09:09:56
- She has in many ways yes but (Betting) - Jim, Nov 15, 09:25:12
- You haven't read it then (Betting) - CWC, Nov 15, 10:18:21
- It's in the NI protocol, pg 400 odd (Betting) - CWC, Nov 15, 10:27:12
- I see the section you mean. I guess it all comes down to whether this (Betting) - Jim, Nov 15, 11:54:54
- the danger in that clause is also (Betting) - CWC, Nov 15, 12:47:57
- Will take a look. Makes you wonder whether all these cabinet ministers/MPs have actually (Betting) - Jim, Nov 15, 10:51:56
- of course they haven't (Betting) - CWC, Nov 15, 12:45:13
- I see the section you mean. I guess it all comes down to whether this (Betting) - Jim, Nov 15, 11:54:54
- I've not read all of it no - where does it say that? Was going by the reports circulating (Betting) - Jim, Nov 15, 10:21:58
- It's in the NI protocol, pg 400 odd (Betting) - CWC, Nov 15, 10:27:12
- it's not a fucking backstop if one side can get out of it on a whim (Betting) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 15, 10:05:38
- It is clearly not acceptable for a sovereign nation to not (Betting) - Jim, Nov 15, 10:19:46
- it's also not acceptable for a sovereign nation (Betting) - CWC, Nov 15, 12:52:07
- May backed the UK into a corner the second she committed to no hard border in Ireland (Betting) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 15, 10:26:44
- May didn't make that commitment, the Good Friday agmnt did (n/m) (Betting) - CWC, Nov 15, 12:52:40
- sorry, to be more clear then, she committed to not implementing a hard border (n/m) (Betting) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 15, 13:23:02
- was more making the point that anyone believing in the GFA (Betting) - CWC, Nov 15, 20:37:02
- sorry, to be more clear then, she committed to not implementing a hard border (n/m) (Betting) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 15, 13:23:02
- i dont understand why they couldnt just do this: (Betting) - Tony Martin, Nov 15, 11:59:11
- have you looked at a map lately? (Betting) - CWC, Nov 15, 12:55:22
- Switzerland still have phyiscal infrastructure (Betting) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 15, 12:42:44
- Should have had a referendum to just dump NI (Betting) - mr carra, Nov 15, 10:59:14
- May didn't make that commitment, the Good Friday agmnt did (n/m) (Betting) - CWC, Nov 15, 12:52:40
- It is clearly not acceptable for a sovereign nation to not (Betting) - Jim, Nov 15, 10:19:46
- The big error in all this (Betting) - Jim, Nov 15, 09:27:46
- "allowing" (Betting) - mr carra, Nov 15, 09:31:36
- Yes exactly, thats what allowed them to call the shots. Should have insisted on (Betting) - Jim, Nov 15, 09:33:36
- how would that be any better? (Betting) - CWC, Nov 15, 12:58:59
- Good job Gina Miller forced a parliamentary meaningful vote (Betting) - SCC 28, Nov 15, 09:38:54
- and that useless fucking cunt Corbyn would've invoked article 50 the morning after the (Betting) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 15, 10:07:20
- Yes exactly, thats what allowed them to call the shots. Should have insisted on (Betting) - Jim, Nov 15, 09:33:36
- "allowing" (Betting) - mr carra, Nov 15, 09:31:36
- You haven't read it then (Betting) - CWC, Nov 15, 10:18:21
- You don't think that way if you're Jacob Rees-Mogg. (Betting) - MORDENCANARY, Nov 15, 09:24:01
- She has in many ways yes but (Betting) - Jim, Nov 15, 09:25:12
- Cheerio Raab! (Betting) - Garry Brooke, Nov 15, 09:04:03
- Rats and ship? (n/m) (Betting) - Bungle, Nov 15, 09:05:32
- Daft thing is she has got a decent deal (Betting) - CWC, Nov 15, 09:09:56
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