The rules said finishing 4th means you qualify.

End of. No ambiguity, and no discretion required.

If the FA wanted there to be circumstances which meant that wouldn't be the case, then they would have needed to say so at the outset.

Would have been very easy for them to have said: "Finishing 4th means you qualify, unless someone beneath you wins it, in which case you don't."

They didn't, so that's it.

Posted By: Tricky Hawes on May 5th 2005 at 11:15:05

Message Thread

I think - Liverpool - Everton thing should be decided by a play-off... (General Chat) - 11_59 to zero, May 5, 10:54:54
- No - if Everton finish 4th they're IN and that should be it. (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, May 5, 11:08:21
  - I agree... (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, May 5, 11:11:19
    - I disagree... (General Chat) - SherryEnema, May 5, 11:25:33
      - Thats not the point, Champs Lge qualification is based on.... (General Chat) - Kirrie, May 5, 11:33:49
        
        You give every impression of not having read a single word I've said (General Chat) - SherryEnema, May 5, 11:37:42
      - Liverpool have got to the champs final on huge luck (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, May 5, 11:33:40
        
        So? (General Chat) - SherryEnema, May 5, 11:44:40
  - Clearly. For once the FA are doing the right thing. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 5, 11:08:48
- If Everton finish fouth... (General Chat) - Jim Nasium, May 5, 11:00:12
  - I hope they do (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, May 5, 11:02:40
- the funny thing is... (General Chat) - mr carra, May 5, 10:58:41
  - the name doesn't mean anything obviously... (General Chat) - 11_59 to zero, May 5, 11:01:07
    - I think the're shit this season (n/m) (General Chat) - mr carra, May 5, 11:03:33
- nah, Liverpool should give a crap about trying to finish 4th first I reckon (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, May 5, 10:55:58
  - agree with gus. (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 5, 10:58:47
    - what's this about 'the rules'? (General Chat) - mr carra, May 5, 11:03:01
      - the rules are at the discretion of the domestic authorities (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 5, 11:05:46
        
        do the rules... (General Chat) - mr carra, May 5, 11:11:52
        
        The rules said finishing 4th means you qualify. (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 5, 11:15:05
        
        where are these rules officially posted? (General Chat) - mr carra, May 5, 11:24:08
    - agree. vote everton (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, May 5, 11:00:27
    - If they wanted it so much the buggers should have got a result against Palace. n/m (n/m) (General Chat) - Surrey, May 5, 10:59:54
      - they played just as shite against us in January though (General Chat) - mr carra, May 5, 11:04:40
        
        but they didn't rest players against us (n/m) (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, May 5, 11:07:03
        
        Man U did (General Chat) - mr carra, May 5, 11:14:27
        
        is the correct answer. nm (n/m) (General Chat) - 11_59 to zero, May 5, 11:15:01
        
        nm (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, May 5, 11:24:58
        
        indeed - it's pointless blaming other teams for our downfall...nm (n/m) (General Chat) - 11_59 to zero, May 5, 11:05:35
        
        No it isn't, it makes you feel better. Why the fuck were Newcastle so shit against Palace (General Chat) - Old Git, May 5, 11:09:29
        
        cos shearer wasn't playing (n/m) (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, May 5, 11:10:10
        
        AND BECAUSE IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY AGAINST US (General Chat) - Old Git, May 5, 11:11:49
        
        I think its valid in this case (n/m) (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, May 5, 11:07:20
  - but winning the Champs League is a far greater achievement... (General Chat) - 11_59 to zero, May 5, 10:57:30
    - also - if it was such a great achievement... (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 5, 11:03:32
      - and have continually underperformed in many games (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, May 5, 11:06:10
      - Benitez knows European football better than English Football... (General Chat) - 11_59 to zero, May 5, 11:05:00
        
        indeed. and qualification for Europe is based on (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 5, 11:07:54
        
        I think he will learn. nm (n/m) (General Chat) - 11_59 to zero, May 5, 11:09:55
        
        fine. and when he does, they'll be in the champions league. (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 5, 11:10:37
        
        he might win it...it's a shit rule that winning a competition... (General Chat) - 11_59 to zero, May 5, 11:12:52
        
        agree about that, all irrelevant anyway Milan will win (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, May 5, 11:15:54
        
        thing is - the 3 teams I really liked in the competition - footballing wise... (General Chat) - 11_59 to zero, May 5, 11:21:55
        
        Barce were let down by Carvalho fouling the keeper, allowing the ball to not be saved (n/m) (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, May 5, 11:23:49
        
        with message (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, May 5, 11:29:09
        
        haha (n/m) (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, May 5, 11:11:07
    - you could argue that winning the UEFA Cup is a greater achievement (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 5, 11:01:56
    - it is but would make a mockery of qualification (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, May 5, 11:00:15
      - different case, time is totally different. n/m (n/m) (General Chat) - 11_59 to zero, May 5, 11:11:32
        
        tis the same thing (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, May 5, 11:12:37
        
        it's not and it's a shit rule anyway - something I strongly disagree with. n/m (n/m) (General Chat) - 11_59 to zero, May 5, 11:14:20
        
        oh yeah I don't agree with it, but it would gut me if we were in the same situ (General Chat) - Gus Poyet 26, May 5, 11:19:40
        
        but there is no proper rule that's the problem mate. (n/m) (General Chat) - 11_59 to zero, May 5, 11:22:57

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