You said TR was leading the March which is incorrect

As I’ve said the fact he is there is clearly concerning but labelling everyone who attended a c**t does nothing to resolve the situation. It’s just lazy virtue signalling.

I repeat my main point: we have an impoverished debate about race in this country and the left are often paralysed by fears of being called racist. The march itself is a symptom of this problem. The effect of this is to PUSH people towards the more extreme right. Being abusive and simplistic perpetuates this problem. It might make you feel good but it won’t resolve the bigger situation imho.

Posted By: Knitted Jesus on October 8th 2017 at 14:36:22

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New to me, not sure I want NCFC badge linked in any way with it. (NCFC) - trustsec, Oct 8, 08:47:03
- Agree (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Oct 8, 20:56:01
- For good citation of what happens when people who don't mean harm but want a group (NCFC) - pants, Oct 8, 14:10:35
- What's do the letters FLA mean? They seem like a very unsavoury bunch (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 8, 14:00:42
  - Ok I see now. Football LADS association 😂 pathetic (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 8, 14:11:59
- Don’t like it, from research you can see some nasty elements in there. (n/m) (NCFC) - jetblackbass, Oct 8, 13:40:41
  - Worrying. Can Webber do something about this?? (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 8, 14:12:49
- Read an article about them. Probably a far right group claiming they've never been (NCFC) - pants, Oct 8, 13:37:56
- But when NCFC were used as a vehicle for left wing politics you were all over it. (NCFC) - wolfio, Oct 8, 13:11:58
  - 100% (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 8, 14:12:30
  - Absolutely agree with this (NCFC) - JoeyDeacon, Oct 8, 13:17:22
    - not on this site (n/m) (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Oct 8, 15:30:03
      - You can't do this GOBB, I've asked you a question and you're not answering it (NCFC) - pants, Oct 8, 15:36:34
    - I think you may have just gone a bit Trump. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Oct 8, 13:21:21
      - Yawn (n/m) (NCFC) - JoeyDeacon, Oct 8, 13:23:48
        
        As I've just pointed out, they are a far right extremist group (NCFC) - pants, Oct 8, 13:43:32
        
        Spot on (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 8, 14:16:04
- lol thought this was a piss take group 😂 (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 8, 11:30:00
- Twitter account promoting racism alongside FLA banner. (NCFC) - norway, Oct 8, 11:03:48
  - There you are,given time people hang themselves (figuratively obviously ). (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Oct 8, 11:20:33
- First you're chasing touted (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 8, 10:41:15
  - Correct. Problem pal? (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Oct 8, 11:00:35
  - I want them to highlight and challenge things like this. (NCFC) - Azteca, Oct 8, 10:53:00
    - but what is there to challenge? (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 8, 11:37:22
      - Isn't this that Tilson bloke? (n/m) (NCFC) - Bryan Salad Surgery, Oct 8, 13:00:06
      - Groups that may contain people with racist views is not the same as (NCFC) - norway, Oct 8, 12:11:55
        
        Did you actually read that Independent article that you posted on Twitter (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Oct 8, 13:25:30
        
        The fact that Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon (lets use the prick's real name) was there (NCFC) - pants, Oct 8, 14:13:40
        
        Of course I've read it and you making a number of assumptions abd generalisations (NCFC) - norway, Oct 8, 13:43:25
        
        Maybe you should explain what you meant by “ridiculous gammon cunts”? (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Oct 8, 13:51:12
        
        This guy explains it well (especially 4mins into the recording) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 8, 14:10:54
        
        Jesus wept (NCFC) - norway, Oct 8, 14:04:02
        
        You said TR was leading the March which is incorrect (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Oct 8, 14:36:22
        
        No I didn't. I said he was at the front of the march. (NCFC) - norway, Oct 8, 15:30:52
        
        "For a period" Semantics and hair splitting thought really isn't it? (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Oct 8, 15:37:41
        
        I really want to know who your old usernames are. Because you've come to the fore in the (NCFC) - pants, Oct 8, 16:33:20
        
        Lol - one of the board’s serial trolls calling me a troll (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Oct 8, 17:14:08
        
        I can’t stand EDL sympathisers which is why I find you a cunt (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 8, 17:16:04
        
        You know full well I stated my abhorrence at the EDL (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Oct 8, 17:35:21
        
        Sanctimonious bile (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 8, 17:39:49
        
        No it isn't. I said he was at the front. YOU said 'leading'. (NCFC) - norway, Oct 8, 15:46:46
        
        Fair enough but you’ve completely ignored my main argument (n/m) (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Oct 8, 17:03:04
        
        I entirely accept that issues of race and integration are complex. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Oct 8, 17:09:14
        
        Exactly. Which is why we need more civilised debate (n/m) (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Oct 8, 17:40:49
        
        Yeah you want a debate on race lol (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 8, 17:05:41
        
        Virtue signaling klaxon (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 8, 14:42:09
        
        Also (NCFC) - norway, Oct 8, 14:06:30
        
        Haha what do you mean? (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Oct 8, 14:02:13
        
        pants wasn’t wrong about you was he (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 8, 13:58:01
        
        People were marching because they’re concerned about terror attacks? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 8, 13:38:36
        
        no, not terror attacks; terror attacks committed by islamic extremists (NCFC) - CWC, Oct 8, 13:49:12
        
        So they don't worry about white non Muslims mass murdering then? (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 8, 14:13:51
        
        Yep, people who link all Muslims and Islamist Extremists as the same thing (NCFC) - pants, Oct 8, 14:00:22
        
        Maybe they think their form of extremism is acceptable because they are white and born in (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 8, 14:14:34
        
        Yep they couldn’t give a fuck about jo cox (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 8, 13:51:16
        
        Do you think that’s the same? A nut job who kills an mp (NCFC) - Mickdundee, Oct 8, 17:27:18
      - Pondlife associating with the club issues surely (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 8, 11:41:10
        
        are we to be given a questionaire (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Oct 8, 11:49:22
        
        This isn’t about games though (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 8, 11:57:37
        
        but it is about peoples extreme views (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Oct 8, 12:50:37
    - Spot on. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Oct 8, 11:00:49
- Ridiculous gammon cunts. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Oct 8, 10:38:32
  - :D (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 8, 14:14:57
- I know the guy in the photo. Can honestly say I've never seen him in any trouble or (NCFC) - Hulk Rules, Oct 8, 10:35:34
  - What's he trying to promote? More violence? (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 8, 14:05:27
  - So he just needs education to what being part of a far right extremist group is then (NCFC) - pants, Oct 8, 14:04:44
  - Well, now you know. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Oct 8, 10:39:21
    - whats that supposed to mean norway? (NCFC) - Disshater, Oct 8, 11:00:42
      - Does he know about the direct libks between the FLA and the far right? (NCFC) - norway, Oct 8, 11:08:47
- Load of middle-aged ex “faces” raging against the dying of the light. (NCFC) - APB, Oct 8, 09:52:23
  - We ARE losing our green and pleasant land though (NCFC) - Bryan Salad Surgery, Oct 8, 09:58:44
    - Joking apart, they’d probably say to that: (NCFC) - APB, Oct 8, 10:03:04
      - most of the NHS is the opposite of what these racist scumbag groups want in the uk (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 8, 14:03:49
        
        Eg most doctors are immigrants or children of immigrants. Idiots (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 8, 14:04:24
        
        Which is ironic because the UK usually begging for migrant workers, were begging (NCFC) - pants, Oct 8, 14:38:43
      - Nonsense, we're all at Mozzers then. (n/m) (NCFC) - DrDublin, Oct 8, 10:29:23
      - Well they might (NCFC) - Bryan Salad Surgery, Oct 8, 10:05:57
        
        My limited experience of doctors (NCFC) - Bryan Salad Surgery, Oct 8, 10:07:56
        
        To be fair, they both had an equal chance of being wrong. (n/m) (NCFC) - tudders, Oct 8, 10:31:19
- Yep, it's bloody awful. (n/m) (NCFC) - bird table, Oct 8, 09:02:35
- Yep. (n/m) (NCFC) - Azteca, Oct 8, 09:02:18
- Agreed. The badge belongs to the Club, so they could take action. (n/m) (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Oct 8, 09:00:59
  - On what basis though? (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 8, 09:19:08
    - it's a registered trademark (I assume) (n/m) (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Oct 8, 09:27:18
      - Yes but it gets used by lots of people without permission (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 8, 09:35:26
        
        Looking at the Cub badge in that photo you could assume that the Club was backing this (n/m) (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Oct 8, 10:24:56
        
        "Fair Usage" is the term. (n/m) (NCFC) - mike_the_sphinx, Oct 8, 10:15:57
        
        “Have good intentions” (NCFC) - APB, Oct 8, 09:53:27
        
        That's the official story though, isn't it? (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 8, 10:07:25
        
        even EDL and BNP would *claim* their own intentions were good (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 8, 12:27:50
        
        Doubt they'd say otherwise Tbf (n/m) (NCFC) - Azteca, Oct 8, 10:42:43
    - Recall them taking action against a local brewery (I think) a few years ago under McNally (NCFC) - Jacksons_Twelfth, Oct 8, 09:24:19
      - But that would require the club to make some allegations against FLA (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 8, 09:32:39
      - Yes. McNally was good at sending the heavies in. IIRC the brewery wasn't using the badge (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Oct 8, 09:30:57
        
        The police raid at 4am regarding the 12 year old showing the new shirt was a highlight. (n/m) (NCFC) - DrDublin, Oct 8, 10:34:26
        
        that's when DM lost me as a fan (n/m) (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Oct 8, 11:34:29

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