I'm not saying th EU is undemocratic on its own terms, but that

we were asked if we wanted to be part of a democracy which limits our ability to make decisions as an independent nation.

It's all a question of degree. Should Little Wittering On The Wold be allowed to vote for independence? Some of its denizens would probably love it, but there seems to be no widespread clamour for such a course.
The UK seems to be about the right size & is historically, culturally & geographically suited to be an independent democratic state (& that can be brought into question - as it was recently). Personally that's what I'd like to see happen.

Posted By: dennis moore on September 5th 2016 at 16:21:53

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There are alot of educated people on here who are a good example to people who (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 5, 14:58:09
- Can't we just shoot all the Brexit cunts (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 15:59:38
  - You sound like Eddie Izzard (n/m) (General Chat) - Pit, Sep 5, 16:28:06
    - plod have charged the bloke that nicked his hat (General Chat) - Tombs, Sep 5, 17:20:49
      - How beret dare they. (n/m) (General Chat) - Pit, Sep 5, 17:30:39
  - Blub (n/m) (General Chat) - yellowman, Sep 5, 16:09:44
  - nope that's illegal, so you will just have to quit your blubbing and move on (General Chat) - Tombs, Sep 5, 16:08:27
    - Could pass a law to make it legal then (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 16:14:31
      - not under the European Convention of Human Rights we couldn't (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 5, 16:19:58
        
        Not even with a water pistol? (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 16:21:40
        
        also rules out "inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment" (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 5, 16:26:29
        
        Ffs (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 16:34:08
      - prick. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 5, 16:15:11
  - Yes. I am a BRUNT. 👍 (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 5, 16:06:51
- Lots of educated people have no life plan either... (General Chat) - usacanary, Sep 5, 15:42:34
- The debate doesn't end with the referendum though (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Sep 5, 15:15:27
  - That is horseshit. I'm not a Tory,your views are simply umdecrocratic. (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 5, 15:22:17
    - Because they are racist ffs (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 16:00:52
      - You are racist (n/m) (General Chat) - Pit, Sep 5, 16:29:34
      - Blub (n/m) (General Chat) - yellowman, Sep 5, 16:10:04
      - i am a brunt.👍 (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 5, 16:06:03
    - well, you've completely missed the point (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Sep 5, 15:26:25
      - That people want to protest against democracy? (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 5, 15:27:58
        
        that the right to protest is itself part of a democracy (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Sep 5, 15:32:34
        
        I think you have a right to continue the campaign but you shouldn't (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 5, 17:28:54
        
        a bit like the twats who've been whining since 1975 then? (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 5, 17:41:57
        
        Not saying people should shut it. And 1975 is different because (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 5, 17:53:04
        
        Yes you're right, sorry, they are just enraging me. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 5, 15:33:49
        
        Of course they are (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 16:25:46
- Brexit doesnt make sense (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 5, 15:10:23
  - That isn't the point. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 5, 15:11:31
    - what is the point (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 5, 15:18:45
      - To be represented by democratically elected MPs, not beholdened (General Chat) - dennis moore, Sep 5, 15:30:04
        
        The EU is not undemocratic (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 16:01:59
        
        I'm not saying th EU is undemocratic on its own terms, but that (General Chat) - dennis moore, Sep 5, 16:21:53
        
        moot point though now that the uk has voted to leave (General Chat) - Tombs, Sep 5, 16:11:11
        
        Wasn't a legally binding referendum tbf (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 16:24:27
        
        our PM thinks it is (General Chat) - Tombs, Sep 5, 16:29:06
        
        Eh? (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 16:35:19
        
        And the relevance of that is...? (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 18:08:23
        
        dunt blah (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Sep 5, 16:40:35
        
        Maybe not, but I reckon remainers would have considered it so (General Chat) - dennis moore, Sep 5, 16:28:18
        
        No it was never legally binding (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 16:36:15
- Liberals are democratic. As long as they win. (n/m) (General Chat) - Pit, Sep 5, 15:00:44
  - Be fun watching the US if Trump wins. (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, Sep 5, 15:30:37
    - Not much of a choice is it. Our poor US chums have 2 total shits to choose from. (General Chat) - Pit, Sep 5, 15:34:02
- Vmt (n/m) (General Chat) - Hulk Rules, Sep 5, 15:00:42

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