Yep. But the signs were there yonks ago. Maybe if police took domestic abusers seriously

stuff like this could be avoided with early intervention.

Clearly it snowballed over the years and culminated in the tragic events the other day.

Posted By: essexcanaryOTBC on June 14th 2016 at 14:06:17

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ISIS: You know we said that crazy Orlando murderer was one of ours? (General Chat) - Nelsons final flanel, Jun 14, 13:21:51
- Apparently he was a regular customer at the gay club Pulse. (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 14, 14:58:24
  - So he wasn't homophobic, just scorned. Wonder what Owen Jones thinks now. (n/m) (General Chat) - Sonic, Jun 14, 15:40:18
    - I'm not sure if word of essexcanaryOTBC's conjecture on a norwich city message board (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jun 14, 15:52:57
- One of ours? Never. He was a yank. And a nutbag one at that. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 14, 13:49:28
  - Sorry, what I meant was (General Chat) - Nelsons final flanel, Jun 14, 14:44:13
  - Steve in ISIS? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 14:02:29
    - clogicide bomber (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 14, 15:54:44
    - ? (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 14, 14:09:17
      - he whooshed you right up! (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Jun 14, 14:15:44
      - Play on words I think (Holland, ISIS) you said "one of ours" :) (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 14, 14:13:31
        
        innit. just that Steve's post reads like he's answering for ISIS. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 14:15:30
  - He was a wife beating domestic abuser who was also homophobic. (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 14, 14:01:18
    - Maybe add Self hating Homophobic......apparently..... (General Chat) - usacanary, Jun 14, 14:22:41
      - Might be why ISIS have now disowned him. (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 14, 14:59:19
        
        the lying flipping rascals (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 14, 15:56:52
        
        I agree with you, they're becoming less and less trustworthy by the day (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 15, 11:00:54
    - With a concealed carry license and a legal assault weapon (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 14, 14:05:08
      - This argument misses the big picture........... (General Chat) - usacanary, Jun 14, 14:55:59
        
        Would make it a lot harder for them though, as would (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 14, 15:16:42
        
        not at all Jim, just makes it harder to people to legally obtain guns. (n/m) (General Chat) - John in Texas, Jun 14, 15:56:55
      - Yep. But the signs were there yonks ago. Maybe if police took domestic abusers seriously (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 14, 14:06:17
        
        Yeah don't know if she ever reported it to the police though? (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 14, 14:09:01
        
        True. But also part of the problem. Fear of not being taken seriously if reported (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 14, 14:12:54
  - He'll be what they want him to be (n/m) (General Chat) - thirsty work, Jun 14, 14:00:24
    - Yep, a fucking scumbag idiot, couldn't come to terms with homosexuality , felt ashamed (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 14:03:00
      - ISness not islamicness (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 14, 14:06:16
        
        Oh. I see what you mean. Yes went extreme IS styles thinking it would (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 14, 14:07:27
        
        If he was confused about his sexual preferences/identity etc he should have got help (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 14, 14:11:32
        
        Getting help on that issue when your family are devout Muslim is tough (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 14, 14:22:12
        
        you can alway's speak to me Steve (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Jun 14, 14:35:29
        
        Plenty of debatable points to be made. However two things are clear. (General Chat) - Pit, Jun 14, 14:10:00
        
        49 innocent people are dead acording to reports now (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 14:12:43
        
        49 correct. I misread New York Times. - said eldest was 50. (youngest was 18) (n/m) (General Chat) - Pit, Jun 14, 14:28:48
        
        :( (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 14, 14:14:55
        
        Of course if he WAS acting out of Wahhabism induced religious fervour, (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 14, 14:12:03
        
        Is are salafists not wahabi's , sorry to be pedantic! (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 14:13:36
        
        Yeah could be,don't suppose we'll ever really know, a prick anyway. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 14:08:41
        
        Indeed. What about the Christian fundamentalist at the abortion clinic? (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 14, 14:09:55
        
        Haven't heard this yet,but they've done it so often in America , shameful. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 14:12:04
      - Just about sums it up. People need to start owning their own insecurities rather than (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 14, 14:04:50
        
        Yeah, it takes time though,we're only human after all. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 14:05:48
        
        Of course. Not a quick solution, never is. But mass violence is NEVER a solution (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 14, 14:09:16
        
        It's ok to feel insecure. Get help for it etc. It's not ok to massacre innocent people! (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 14, 14:05:19
  - He wasn't a yank that's for sure. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 13:55:20
- I'll tell you a secret about ISIS (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jun 14, 13:39:29
  - do they also have a massive telly? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 13:53:28
- He called 911 and swore allegiance to ISIL prior to attacking (General Chat) - Sonic, Jun 14, 13:29:38

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