only the Swansea one is vaguely impressive

Given that I've already mentioned the Mourinho factor. Villa and Sunderland were both averaging 0.4 PPG when their managers were sacked (4 from 10 for Villa and 3 from 8 for Sunderland). Only one team in the whole of Prem history has gone through a whole season (though lots have over an 8/10 game stretch, which isn't a big enough representative sample) at that level so even if they had stuck with the manager it was bound to go up significantly. In fact if they had stuck with the manager and had a long s**t season, creeping to a hopeless 25 point total and relegation, they would still have seen 87.5% and 95.5% increases in PPG (this is actually considerably better than Villa have done in reality - I am pretty sure they would have more points now than they do if they had stuck with Sherwood FFS)

Posted By: mr carra on March 8th 2016 at 10:31:38

Message Thread

Looking likely Newcastle will sack McLaren (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 8, 08:53:01
- Newcastle are very much like Villa (NCFC) - Charles21, Mar 8, 09:59:32
  - not like us lads who support the group 110% through thin and thick (n/m) (NCFC) - MIKEWALKER, Mar 8, 10:07:08
    - no, but I don't think a week goes by in football when Newcastle fans aren't moaning (NCFC) - Charles21, Mar 8, 10:57:57
- Boo! Give him more time. (NCFC) - bird table, Mar 8, 09:24:55
  - He's going to be playing the false Curbishley role from his sofa for the next 4 years (NCFC) - MIKEWALKER, Mar 8, 10:00:00
- After giving him all that money in Jan ? Basket case of a club (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Mar 8, 09:08:52
  - he doesnt chose who to sign (NCFC) - pab, Mar 8, 09:29:38
  - Why should him spending money mean he keeps his job? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 09:10:35
    - Why give him the money in the first place... (NCFC) - loz, Mar 8, 09:12:35
      - Er I don't think the plan was to change manager! (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 09:17:35
        
        It happens Ferguson would never have achieved ... (NCFC) - loz, Mar 8, 09:20:03
        
        Oh right everyone could be the next fergie (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 09:21:57
        
        Not what I'm saying but the point remains (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Mar 8, 09:28:22
- He should be given more time. Modern football eh? (NCFC) - Dracula, Mar 8, 08:57:22
  - Won't be if they stay up (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 8, 09:04:44
    - Would still be outrageous..... because he might keep them up anyway. (NCFC) - JD3, Mar 8, 09:07:34
      - It may be "modern football" but the fact is that clubs want to stay in the prem (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 8, 09:16:47
        
        I believe every prem club who has sacked their manager this season (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 09:21:02
        
        that is a fairly meaningless statistic though (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 8, 09:37:23
        
        Right so our talent level is worse than the Worthington season ok (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 10:01:15
        
        only the Swansea one is vaguely impressive (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 8, 10:31:38
        
        Sunderland is highly impressive (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 10:35:05
        
        40 points is about what most people would have expected at the start of the season (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 8, 10:40:39
        
        Isn't that what AN expected too? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 10:47:19
        
        Would you like him to be sacked I presume? (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Mar 8, 10:52:51
        
        I am just saying that it shouldn't be treated with outrage (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 10:55:50
        
        Indeed I understand that but on a personal level... (NCFC) - loz, Mar 8, 10:59:58
        
        If we had someone decent lined up (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 11:04:56
        
        That's a bit vague though... (NCFC) - loz, Mar 8, 11:09:25
        
        "someone decent" (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 8, 11:13:25
        
        If we have nobody lined up then no option but to stay (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 11:11:59
        
        Clears things up... (NCFC) - loz, Mar 8, 11:18:33
        
        Correct I would rather we tried to stay up (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 11:23:39
        
        Not by me (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 8, 10:52:38
        
        Well at the moment we are on target for 31 points (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 10:59:38
        
        I agree we are (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 8, 11:10:52
        
        The fixtures haven't been great (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 11:19:40
        
        Year wonder if hull and burnley fans were clamouring... (NCFC) - loz, Mar 8, 09:41:42
        
        Some probably were. They went down and with respect Burnley (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 8, 10:18:38
        
        Yeah I do recall Burnley didn't try to improve the team much (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 10:20:35
        
        Thought they did and held Lee darnbrough ... (NCFC) - loz, Mar 8, 10:23:15
        
        Well they spent under 10 million for the season (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 10:30:08
        
        Hull were mostly 15th in the 3 months before May (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 10:06:37
        
        1 point from last 4 games sent them down (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 10:07:49
        
        Bit like us when we got rid of hoot then (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Mar 8, 10:18:40
        
        Not really as they won their 2 games before the last 4 (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 10:23:14
        
        4 home games out of 5 to finish the season too (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 10:25:20
        
        Even Villa? (n/m) (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Mar 8, 09:32:30
        
        You have zero evidence of this Jim... (NCFC) - loz, Mar 8, 09:18:35
        
        Proper investment in the squad at the start of the season for one thing (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 8, 09:33:50
        
        you accept the argument for sacking is finely balanced (NCFC) - Charles21, Mar 8, 09:54:33
        
        But has seen improvement for all prem clubs this season (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 10:08:50
        
        Still wouldn't prove anything (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 8, 09:41:38
        
        No I don't think Neil is performing well and as i said yesterday, a club like us (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 8, 10:16:59
        
        You've still not listened to that interview have you... (NCFC) - loz, Mar 8, 09:39:47
        
        vmt (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Mar 8, 09:55:03
      - Lol (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 8, 09:10:53

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