And in the same time frame (i.e. since and including Ron Greenwood era debuts), only

(I think) Trevor Francis, Steve Coppell, Glenn Hoddle, Bryan Robson, Terry Butcher and Stuart Pearce of the white England players have had what you could consider a managerial career.

So, two of the 78 black England players, and 6 of 205 white England players.

That would seem to be pretty damn close in ratio.

Source data - Greenwood gave first debut to black players and since then there have been 78, 929 England debuts pre-Greenwood and 1211 in total). Danny Ings is the most recent in both lists.

Posted By: Steve in Holland on November 5th 2015 at 15:03:12

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Anyone got any stats on the split of uefa coaching badges between (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 5, 13:19:24
- Maybe it's time to force black players to go into coaching (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 5, 13:29:43
  - Force? What l (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 5, 17:27:26
    - ..like slavery, you mean? (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 5, 17:27:41
      - Yep (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 5, 17:58:37
        
        Have you phoned talksport yet to tell them this? (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 5, 20:21:52
- The black manager percentage does seem wrong (NCFC) - APB, Nov 5, 13:27:18
  - I don't know. Could be many factors. If we are talking about (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Nov 5, 14:22:27
    - Good post (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 5, 14:28:28
      - That's an interesting one. Black England internationals who became managers. Not sure but (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Nov 5, 14:51:12
        
        And in the same time frame (i.e. since and including Ron Greenwood era debuts), only (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Nov 5, 15:03:12
        
        Dennis Wise? Gareth Southgate? Graham Rix? John Gregory? (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 5, 15:28:22
        
        Missed Southgate. Oops, list I used is minimum 25 caps. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Nov 5, 16:10:44
        
        Indeed the ratio is much higher for white former England players. Missed loads including (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Nov 5, 16:21:24
        
        Only a handful of black England players around that time though (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 5, 16:27:34
        
        ^^^ SCC level stattage (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Nov 5, 15:07:11
        
        And the majority of black England players ever (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 5, 15:02:14
      - I might be wrong but I feel that Brits are less racist about football than many other (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Nov 5, 14:36:29
        
        Prejudice in the uk these days concentrated on Muslims (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 5, 14:54:54
        
        That wasn't the case 20 years ago, when Britain was also in general not so (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Nov 5, 15:06:51
        
        Yeah everything changed after 9/11 (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 5, 15:13:18
        
        What happened on the 9th November? (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Nov 5, 15:16:35

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