I don't think France or Germany want to see the UK leave

all Cameron has to do is point to the UKIP % share of the national vote and say 'Give me enough superficial concessions to beat that lot, and I'll get you a 'Yes to the EU' vote in our referendum".

And lo and behold, the UK will be able to put in place a few extra border controls and will get a veto or two on new EU legislation.

Of course you and I (and Cameron) know that there won't be any real concessions, but there don't have to be.

Posted By: CWC on May 7th 2015 at 23:01:56

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If exit poll is right I fear for the future of the NHS, The Union & our EU future (n/m) (General Chat) - Taxi 4 Johnson, May 7, 22:42:32
- out of interest, why? (General Chat) - CWC, May 7, 22:57:25
  - Look at how many people are voting for UKIP... that is scary stuff IMO (General Chat) - Taxi 4 Johnson, May 7, 23:03:16
    - re UKIP, agree. re NHS (General Chat) - CWC, May 7, 23:13:00
- Do you think the EU issue will amount to anything more than a renegotiation of our role? (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, May 7, 22:45:07
  - You can't renegotiate, Cameron tried before and they kicked his sorry arse. (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, May 7, 22:49:29
    - exactly, there is nothing to gain for France and Germany (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, May 7, 22:54:17
      - I don't think France or Germany want to see the UK leave (General Chat) - CWC, May 7, 23:01:56
      - I'm not so convinced that France and Germany would be relaxed about us leaving (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, May 7, 22:56:31
        
        Possibly, but they know that it would be worse for Britain (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, May 7, 22:59:17
        
        Indeed. (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, May 7, 23:01:12
    - Possibly, but a referendum giving him the mandate to do so is a very different proposition (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, May 7, 22:51:04
  - I just don't know but I fear the right wing press... clouding truths with fear (n/m) (General Chat) - Taxi 4 Johnson, May 7, 22:46:51
    - I agree - my wife's family live in South Thanet (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, May 7, 22:53:44
  - Vmt (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 22:46:11
- Yes (n/m) (General Chat) - colincanary, May 7, 22:43:31

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