I'm not saying it's easy or something
I often think success is particularly difficult BECAUSE we're Norwich. What do I mean by that? Imagine if the club had appointed someone like Warnock. Would we have tolerated him? I doubt it. We'd surely not have liked him.
Even someone like Bruce Rioch - who I think did a damn good job in horrendous circumstances - was slagged off to kingdom come by many fans, some of whom then rejoiced as we "got our Norwich back" by appointing Bryan f**king Hamilton.
I became a Norwich fan relatively near the end of a hugely successful 20 year period in the club's history. I loved that we were different; that at a time of hooliganism and the long ball, we were a family club, with an all-seater stadium even before Hillsborough, which played continental-style, passing football. Or at least tried to, anyway.
But that 'difference' then became our Achilles heel. Stat: between 1988/9 and 1999/2000, for TWELVE SEASONS IN A ROW, Norwich City accumulated fewer points in the second half of the season than the first half. This wasn't a big deal as long as we were in the top flight; but it became a very, very big deal as the club's status declined; even dwindled.
Why did it happen? Because we're soft. Incorrigibly soft. Almost proudly soft at times. When the going gets tough, Norwich start sleeping. Yes, there have been exceptions: Archie Macaulay, Ron Saunders and Paul Lambert mainly. But was Saunders loved? Respected, hugely - but loved? In contrast, John Bond, Ken Brown, Dave Stringer and Mike Walker - all of whom played 'the Norwich way' - were adored: Uncle Ken and the Silver Fox especially.
Heck: the morning Martin O'Neill left - the morning that, deep down, we all realised we'd be stuck in this poxy division for the best part of a decade - many players actually CELEBRATED. Because he'd been demanding; he'd rattled cages... and they didn't like it.
Meanwhile, the fans had spent most of his short time here moaning about the style of play; a bit like a section of Wrathers have dismissed Lambert's achievements with us as a 'fluke', and moaned about his style at times; a bit like Worthington was never really loved either. Only respected as long as he was taking us forwards.
What's the net result of all this? The board are as representative of their fanbase as almost any I can think of in England; so they, like us, have peculiarly set ideas about what Norwich City should or shouldn't be.
Chris Hughton probably wasn't appointed as much for his record as for what a decent chap he was: good ambassador for the club, nice manners, wears a blazer well, that sort of thing. And Neil Adams? Another nice guy, with the added benefit of 'bleeding green and yellow'. Never mind the complete lack of experience, Neil: here's the job!
But to have a novice learning on the job at a time when we literally can't afford to fail - because if we do, we'll be stuck back here for years and years - is a complete dereliction of duty absolutely typical of us. The fans think Adams will play 'the Norwich way', have always had affection for him anyway, so they support him: but there's nothing of substance to base that support on.
And the players? They'll know that too. Why would a novice inspire them? What does he add to this club that we don't already have? How does he excite them, motivate them, make them feel like they'll go places in their careers under him, in the manner that Lambert did? He can't. He doesn't have the experience or, in my view, the edge to do so.
So on we drift. There's no real shape to our play; there's certainly no zip or edge to it. But that's us as a club. No zip, no edge, just niceness and softness and incredible loyalty and not an awful lot to show for it. I don't say all this because I'm a miserable arsehole or something; it's only football, after all. I say it because it makes me sad.
All that progress; all that apparently learning to finally get ruthless, and get a real edge about us as a club? It's gone. We're just back to being that nice club which other managers mouth platitudes about after we've just failed to beat them; that nice club which treats its players extremely well but is nowhere near demanding enough in what we expect of them; that nice club whose fans applaud the team off the pitch, win or lose; that nice club probably set fair for another decade in this miserable, God-forsaken league.
Many fans probably don't realise this - but time is already starting to run out. If we didn't learn this from what happened after 1995 and 2005, we clearly never will.
Posted By: thebigfeller on October 25th 2014 at 21:39:58
Message Thread
- I'm not saying it's easy or something (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 25, 21:39:58
- A tseaming pile of turgid shit and someone who clearly does not attend matches (n/m) (NCFC) - trianglepatch, Oct 26, 07:31:06
- Fucking hell. (NCFC) - jafski, Oct 25, 22:29:40
- so you agree with him then? (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Oct 25, 23:28:57
- Brilliant. Thank you. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Oct 25, 23:01:23
- great post (n/m) (NCFC) - matt in london, Oct 25, 22:40:45
- "Our fans boo the players at fucking half-time. Half-fucking-time." (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 25, 22:40:27
- Too many words (n/m) (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Oct 25, 22:39:48
- FFS !! (NCFC) - norway, Oct 25, 22:36:13
- Exactly. The hairy buffoon practically obliged me to read the six paragraphs I'd already (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Oct 25, 22:38:31
- Yeah, but apart from that, he makes a good point. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Oct 25, 22:34:50
- What a load of guff, just words that actually add up to fuck all (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Oct 25, 22:04:01
- too many words (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 22:05:31
- Ha ha, good work LOJ (n/m) (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Oct 25, 22:07:42
- lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Oct 25, 22:04:32
- too many words (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 22:05:31
- Point Of Order (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Oct 25, 22:02:30
- how would (NCFC) - matt in london, Oct 25, 21:54:07
- Yeah, I wondered that (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 25, 21:56:43
- What do top Prem clubs do, for example? Get in contention at Xmas, then hit higher and (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 25, 22:03:00
- seems weird to me (NCFC) - matt in london, Oct 25, 22:23:26
- What do top Prem clubs do, for example? Get in contention at Xmas, then hit higher and (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Oct 25, 22:03:00
- Yeah, I wondered that (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 25, 21:56:43
- The board are as representative of their fanbase as almost any I can think of in England. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Oct 25, 21:53:02
- actual lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Kev, Oct 25, 22:57:33
- ^^^Reading posts, so we don't have to^^^ (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Oct 25, 21:57:26
- Only that far. There's six more paras I didn't bother with. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Oct 25, 21:59:47
- why's your beef? (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 22:00:38
- Becuase a mummy beef and a daddy beef decided tonight's the night, made a little baby beef (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Oct 25, 22:04:03
- well I'm just glad a load of cows aren't reaping having in Norwich tonight, I couldn't (NCFC) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 22:07:20
- ^^^meta^^^ (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Oct 25, 22:01:44
- Becuase a mummy beef and a daddy beef decided tonight's the night, made a little baby beef (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Oct 25, 22:04:03
- why's your beef? (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 22:00:38
- It's not actually *that* long (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 25, 21:58:31
- length isnt the only issue (NCFC) - Charles21, Oct 25, 22:04:03
- Be fair, The actual word count is far less important than the accumulating weight of FFS. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Oct 25, 22:00:58
- the style of writing also has a bearing on how one receives a long post (NCFC) - Tombs, Oct 25, 22:06:58
- Could you summarise your post Tricky? (NCFC) - norway, Oct 25, 22:00:13
- Only that far. There's six more paras I didn't bother with. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Oct 25, 21:59:47
- wevs (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Oct 25, 21:49:23
- I've got the rump now, you come across all Sir Loin, were a topside and if you say anythin (NCFC) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 21:48:53
- punch not liunch (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 21:49:22
- Hits the nail on the head again (n/m) (NCFC) - colincanary, Oct 25, 21:47:50
- I'm going in again... (NCFC) - norway, Oct 25, 21:49:41
- don't do it man (NCFC) - Tombs, Oct 25, 21:53:05
- I came up for air too quickly (NCFC) - norway, Oct 25, 21:56:38
- don't do it man (NCFC) - Tombs, Oct 25, 21:53:05
- I'm going in again... (NCFC) - norway, Oct 25, 21:49:41
- far too many words. what are you going on about now? (n/m) (NCFC) - shoddy, Oct 25, 21:43:53
- "What do I mean by that?" (NCFC) - norway, Oct 25, 21:43:11
- FFS... (NCFC) - Yellalee, Oct 25, 21:42:02
- There's just nothing there. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Oct 25, 21:56:03
- same as all the others (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Oct 25, 21:53:48
- we need a bastard of an experienced manager (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 25, 21:44:16
- Experienced: 'qualified' (NCFC) - norway, Oct 25, 21:45:30
- sorry, saw the reams of text and gave it a miss (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 25, 21:43:15
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