I think this year is massively important to make a proper tilt at getting back up

When the payments are at the maximum, If we're out of things by Christmas it'll be too late. I don't think he can be given too much time to learn on the job, obviously the board thought different, or they wouldn't have given a 3 year contract.

Posted By: Mickdundee on May 25th 2014 at 10:46:48

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Sitting with my early morning cuppa and still finding it difficult to get my head round. (NCFC) - Hendrikos, May 25, 08:17:23
- The piece in the EDP yesterday about the technical football director cleared things up (NCFC) - Yellow_Monkey, May 25, 10:45:29
  - They should run the club and stay out of the football (n/m) (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 10:47:55
    - Exactly. Same with the perceived requirement of insisting (NCFC) - Yellow_Monkey, May 25, 10:51:02
    - Explain how that works precisely. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 10:49:54
      - They shouldn't dictate what style of play (NCFC) - Yellow_Monkey, May 25, 10:52:59
        
        Of coursee that won't happen - and look at Swansea (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 11:05:42
- I just didn't see anything in the 5 games to reassure me tbh (NCFC) - Dirty Delia, May 25, 10:40:49
- oh well (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, May 25, 10:25:48
- We are stuck with it now, so we all need to get.... (NCFC) - bartender100, May 25, 10:22:39
  - I don't think he can have till Christmas,or next season will be done got to hit the ground (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 10:25:00
    - I think this year is massively important to make a proper tilt at getting back up (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 10:46:48
    - How long do you give him then? (NCFC) - duke of york, May 25, 10:36:06
- These are all my thoughts exactly (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 10:17:05
  - To be honest, I've had a look on the pink un today. (NCFC) - Pink un exile, May 25, 14:33:41
- Why are people talking like we have appointed Bryan Gunn? (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 09:55:23
  - The problem is to anyone born after 1980 our (NCFC) - Duck, May 25, 10:39:38
    - Loads and loads of football managers are given their first job (NCFC) - duke of york, May 25, 10:46:17
      - Not at such a massively important time. (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 10:53:00
      - And I bet for every successful first time manager in the championship (NCFC) - Duck, May 25, 10:50:39
        
        Is that any different a proportion to the appointment of *any* manager? (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 10:52:32
        
        Well yes. Of course it is (NCFC) - Duck, May 25, 10:57:32
        
        Like Swansea have? (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, May 25, 12:17:06
        
        So you're confident that the proportion of successful managers (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 11:06:57
        
        Vmt (n/m) (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 11:00:48
  - I was going to post almost the same. (NCFC) - derbyshire canary, May 25, 10:27:00
  - Barcelona should never have appointed Guardiola from within (NCFC) - duke of york, May 25, 10:08:43
    - Not quite the same is it? (NCFC) - Dr Baker, May 25, 10:38:46
      - If we follow it up with Jarrett and Thorne signings my toys and their pram will rapidly (NCFC) - Pink un exile, May 25, 14:37:31
      - So Barcelona were swayed even more by sentiment & emotion the because he was such a hero. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 10:51:43
        
        No. He done an excellent job with the B team and had a broad knowledge of football. (NCFC) - Dr Baker, May 25, 11:10:31
        
        But it's not just him is it. Or even just Barcelona. (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 25, 11:19:53
        
        Agree entirely (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 11:21:47
        
        yep, I'm with you and Lee (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, May 25, 12:18:37
        
        Looks like he won the Spanish 4th Tier actually. And was promoted in the play off. (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 11:23:27
        
        All your knowledge and opinion comes from Wikipedia doesn't it. lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 25, 11:27:06
        
        I have no fecking idea how Guardiola got the job (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 11:28:24
        
        Again, you're another one falling in to the trap of comparing Adams with Gunn (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 11:18:51
        
        I only mentioned Gunn as DoY mentioned him above (NCFC) - Dr Baker, May 25, 11:39:06
        
        You've listed reasons why Guardiola was offered the job (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 12:58:12
        
        Good post (n/m) (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 11:11:27
      - Bryan Gunn was one of our most popular ever players though (NCFC) - duke of york, May 25, 10:48:56
    - You can't compare us to Barcelona (n/m) (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 10:25:51
      - If anything, their relative standing to us make internal recruitment the most insane thing (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 25, 10:33:11
        
        Don't they have the same playing style/ethos from kids to first team? (NCFC) - Dr Baker, May 25, 10:50:29
        
        Yep I think you're probably there on that (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 25, 11:10:44
        
        That's it isn't it? (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 11:07:51
        
        Exactly. Getting the besst possible candidate eveen more of an imperative for them. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 10:34:33
        
        Ha, vmt (NCFC) - duke of york, May 25, 10:34:00
      - Why not exactly? (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 10:31:26
        
        So managerial experience at a lower level then. Just like Neil..oh (n/m) (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 11:04:03
        
        It's still in the league structure playing against proper teams,so no it's not the same (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 11:14:28
        
        What do you know of that league then? How good are Barca B relative to the other teams? (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 25, 11:25:22
        
        Out of interest, how have our U18s done under Adams (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 11:17:19
        
        I think I read we finished fourth from bottom (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 11:22:42
        
        It is a reserve/youth team. You do know this, yes? Nobody over the age of 24. (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 25, 11:08:42
        
        Managing a reserve team in a real league of course (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 11:16:06
        
        I know nothing of the competitiveness of a league with a Barcelona B team in it. (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 25, 11:24:19
        
        very little. I am just stating what I read on t'internet (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 11:27:27
        
        I was interested in how he got the job - he was head coach of Barcelona B in La Liga 2 (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 10:49:22
  - Would have been the same had the internet existed for *all* (NCFC) - duke of york, May 25, 10:06:24
  - Vimto maximus (NCFC) - Under soil heating, May 25, 10:05:49
    - Agree, totally. (NCFC) - derbyshire canary, May 25, 10:40:31
  - This appointment is a massive gamble. (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 10:00:26
    - Every single appointment is a gamble (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 10:02:50
      - there are calculated gambles (NCFC) - Brandonio, May 25, 13:27:24
      - some are more of a gamble thab (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 10:03:49
        
        Agree with both of you (n/m) (NCFC) - derbyshire canary, May 25, 10:28:15
        
        than others. Let's hop ours pays off with a top 6 finish. (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 10:04:33
- Feels like we're back to the cheap options and the bullshit from the Board (NCFC) - Old Splat, May 25, 08:44:59
  - Agree - Players + right blend + confidence + luck. Also tactical decision making. (NCFC) - derbyshire canary, May 25, 09:56:39
  - to be fair to Walker. He did have some pedigree. (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 09:39:05
    - Manaaging a fouth division side prior to taking over at a PL club is 'pedigree' is it? (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 09:58:23
      - a different era of course. but all managers start somewhere. (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 10:03:22
- Pretty much my thoughts. (NCFC) - avenging canary, May 25, 08:32:34
  - Beecause they weren't going through a full recruitment process in January. (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 10:00:08
    - All the more reason give him caretaker job in jam surely ... (NCFC) - loz, May 25, 10:11:38
    - My understanding (NCFC) - avenging canary, May 25, 10:10:26
- very detailed (NCFC) - robotbear, May 25, 08:23:28

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