The problem is to anyone born after 1980 our

"Rich heritage" of appointing internal candidates is f**king useless. Megson, Deehan, Hamilton and yes, Gunn.

The problem I have is that the board have yet again a been swayed by emotion. If we employed an outside consultant to assist in the best business decision, there is no way we would have appointed Adams. In what other industry would someone get a top job having never performed at that level?

As others have said it's a massive, unnecessary gamble to take

Posted By: Duck on May 25th 2014 at 10:39:38

Message Thread

Sitting with my early morning cuppa and still finding it difficult to get my head round. (NCFC) - Hendrikos, May 25, 08:17:23
- The piece in the EDP yesterday about the technical football director cleared things up (NCFC) - Yellow_Monkey, May 25, 10:45:29
  - They should run the club and stay out of the football (n/m) (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 10:47:55
    - Exactly. Same with the perceived requirement of insisting (NCFC) - Yellow_Monkey, May 25, 10:51:02
    - Explain how that works precisely. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 10:49:54
      - They shouldn't dictate what style of play (NCFC) - Yellow_Monkey, May 25, 10:52:59
        
        Of coursee that won't happen - and look at Swansea (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 11:05:42
- I just didn't see anything in the 5 games to reassure me tbh (NCFC) - Dirty Delia, May 25, 10:40:49
- oh well (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, May 25, 10:25:48
- We are stuck with it now, so we all need to get.... (NCFC) - bartender100, May 25, 10:22:39
  - I don't think he can have till Christmas,or next season will be done got to hit the ground (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 10:25:00
    - I think this year is massively important to make a proper tilt at getting back up (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 10:46:48
    - How long do you give him then? (NCFC) - duke of york, May 25, 10:36:06
- These are all my thoughts exactly (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 10:17:05
  - To be honest, I've had a look on the pink un today. (NCFC) - Pink un exile, May 25, 14:33:41
- Why are people talking like we have appointed Bryan Gunn? (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 09:55:23
  - The problem is to anyone born after 1980 our (NCFC) - Duck, May 25, 10:39:38
    - Loads and loads of football managers are given their first job (NCFC) - duke of york, May 25, 10:46:17
      - Not at such a massively important time. (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 10:53:00
      - And I bet for every successful first time manager in the championship (NCFC) - Duck, May 25, 10:50:39
        
        Is that any different a proportion to the appointment of *any* manager? (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 10:52:32
        
        Well yes. Of course it is (NCFC) - Duck, May 25, 10:57:32
        
        Like Swansea have? (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, May 25, 12:17:06
        
        So you're confident that the proportion of successful managers (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 11:06:57
        
        Vmt (n/m) (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 11:00:48
  - I was going to post almost the same. (NCFC) - derbyshire canary, May 25, 10:27:00
  - Barcelona should never have appointed Guardiola from within (NCFC) - duke of york, May 25, 10:08:43
    - Not quite the same is it? (NCFC) - Dr Baker, May 25, 10:38:46
      - If we follow it up with Jarrett and Thorne signings my toys and their pram will rapidly (NCFC) - Pink un exile, May 25, 14:37:31
      - So Barcelona were swayed even more by sentiment & emotion the because he was such a hero. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 10:51:43
        
        No. He done an excellent job with the B team and had a broad knowledge of football. (NCFC) - Dr Baker, May 25, 11:10:31
        
        But it's not just him is it. Or even just Barcelona. (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 25, 11:19:53
        
        Agree entirely (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 11:21:47
        
        yep, I'm with you and Lee (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, May 25, 12:18:37
        
        Looks like he won the Spanish 4th Tier actually. And was promoted in the play off. (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 11:23:27
        
        All your knowledge and opinion comes from Wikipedia doesn't it. lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 25, 11:27:06
        
        I have no fecking idea how Guardiola got the job (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 11:28:24
        
        Again, you're another one falling in to the trap of comparing Adams with Gunn (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 11:18:51
        
        I only mentioned Gunn as DoY mentioned him above (NCFC) - Dr Baker, May 25, 11:39:06
        
        You've listed reasons why Guardiola was offered the job (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 12:58:12
        
        Good post (n/m) (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 11:11:27
      - Bryan Gunn was one of our most popular ever players though (NCFC) - duke of york, May 25, 10:48:56
    - You can't compare us to Barcelona (n/m) (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 10:25:51
      - If anything, their relative standing to us make internal recruitment the most insane thing (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 25, 10:33:11
        
        Don't they have the same playing style/ethos from kids to first team? (NCFC) - Dr Baker, May 25, 10:50:29
        
        Yep I think you're probably there on that (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 25, 11:10:44
        
        That's it isn't it? (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 11:07:51
        
        Exactly. Getting the besst possible candidate eveen more of an imperative for them. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 10:34:33
        
        Ha, vmt (NCFC) - duke of york, May 25, 10:34:00
      - Why not exactly? (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 10:31:26
        
        So managerial experience at a lower level then. Just like Neil..oh (n/m) (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 11:04:03
        
        It's still in the league structure playing against proper teams,so no it's not the same (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 11:14:28
        
        What do you know of that league then? How good are Barca B relative to the other teams? (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 25, 11:25:22
        
        Out of interest, how have our U18s done under Adams (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 11:17:19
        
        I think I read we finished fourth from bottom (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 25, 11:22:42
        
        It is a reserve/youth team. You do know this, yes? Nobody over the age of 24. (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 25, 11:08:42
        
        Managing a reserve team in a real league of course (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 11:16:06
        
        I know nothing of the competitiveness of a league with a Barcelona B team in it. (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 25, 11:24:19
        
        very little. I am just stating what I read on t'internet (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 11:27:27
        
        I was interested in how he got the job - he was head coach of Barcelona B in La Liga 2 (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 10:49:22
  - Would have been the same had the internet existed for *all* (NCFC) - duke of york, May 25, 10:06:24
  - Vimto maximus (NCFC) - Under soil heating, May 25, 10:05:49
    - Agree, totally. (NCFC) - derbyshire canary, May 25, 10:40:31
  - This appointment is a massive gamble. (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 10:00:26
    - Every single appointment is a gamble (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 10:02:50
      - there are calculated gambles (NCFC) - Brandonio, May 25, 13:27:24
      - some are more of a gamble thab (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 10:03:49
        
        Agree with both of you (n/m) (NCFC) - derbyshire canary, May 25, 10:28:15
        
        than others. Let's hop ours pays off with a top 6 finish. (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 10:04:33
- Feels like we're back to the cheap options and the bullshit from the Board (NCFC) - Old Splat, May 25, 08:44:59
  - Agree - Players + right blend + confidence + luck. Also tactical decision making. (NCFC) - derbyshire canary, May 25, 09:56:39
  - to be fair to Walker. He did have some pedigree. (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 09:39:05
    - Manaaging a fouth division side prior to taking over at a PL club is 'pedigree' is it? (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 09:58:23
      - a different era of course. but all managers start somewhere. (NCFC) - phrankin, May 25, 10:03:22
- Pretty much my thoughts. (NCFC) - avenging canary, May 25, 08:32:34
  - Beecause they weren't going through a full recruitment process in January. (NCFC) - norway, May 25, 10:00:08
    - All the more reason give him caretaker job in jam surely ... (NCFC) - loz, May 25, 10:11:38
    - My understanding (NCFC) - avenging canary, May 25, 10:10:26
- very detailed (NCFC) - robotbear, May 25, 08:23:28

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