Its not a freedom of speech argument though is it

People will have opinions on matters and they will more often than not base those opinions on their own experiences. And i don't think it is idiotic to think that fan behaviour/culture or even the culture amongst fans of certain of the bigger clubs played some part in what happened that day. That's not the same as saying it was the fans fault or even close to being the main cause. Its just acknowledging the fact that these type of catastrophic events are caused by a multitude of factors. I think the only idiotic stance is one that does not recognise that and tries to wholly apportion blame to one individual or organisation when its normally not that straight forward.

There is an inquest going on which involves all of these issues being looked at by the coroner and a jury. Their decision will no doubt help shed some light on what opinions are or are not "idiotic."

Posted By: Jim on April 22nd 2014 at 11:21:06

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Scousers, love them or hate them? (NCFC) - martirey27, Apr 22, 10:23:10
- Clickbait. (NCFC) - Bungle, Apr 22, 10:51:03
- Just poke a scouser with a stick...... (NCFC) - yellowman, Apr 22, 10:50:30
- oh dear. (n/m) (NCFC) - Pixelman, Apr 22, 10:49:02
- "the Liverpool fans need to take some of the blame" (NCFC) - norway, Apr 22, 10:45:29
  - Apologies (NCFC) - martirey27, Apr 22, 10:50:39
    - good call (NCFC) - jAC, Apr 22, 11:23:31
    - Good. (NCFC) - norway, Apr 22, 10:53:07
      - So demoralising to know that these kind of opinions are still so prevalent. (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 22, 10:55:32
        
        Remember all the Dean Ashton gash. All that crap about him hating Norfolk (NCFC) - pants, Apr 22, 11:22:22
        
        not to mention all that pretending to be injured stuff. Then he didn't play for West Ham (NCFC) - pants, Apr 22, 11:29:56
        
        *if anyone's thinking "wtf" * (NCFC) - pants, Apr 22, 11:34:16
        
        To be fair, people are entitled to hold whatever opinion they like and (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 22, 11:01:57
        
        Yes. And that's the great thing about such freedoms. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Apr 22, 11:14:37
        
        Yes, people are entitled to be fucking idiots. It is indeed a free country in that regard. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Apr 22, 11:04:56
        
        Yep good old 'freedom of speech' argument there. (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 22, 11:04:29
        
        Its not a freedom of speech argument though is it (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 22, 11:21:06
        
        An inquest is to determine cause of death (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 22, 11:25:08
        
        Yes I do acknowledge that (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 22, 11:53:29
        
        There was a massive crush outside at 2.40pm (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 22, 12:02:12
        
        "not" even acknowledge even! (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 22, 11:55:26
        
        Sorry - I acknowledge they were not to blame. The other "not" was later in the post! (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 22, 11:57:04
        
        Indeed (NCFC) - norway, Apr 22, 10:59:02
- A dreadful piece of writing. (n/m) (NCFC) - Upperjarroldmiddle, Apr 22, 10:42:56
- Far to many words (n/m) (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Apr 22, 10:35:30
- I speak as someone on here who is no fan of he scousers and (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 22, 10:33:42
- Well, that's the last "Yarmy" link I bother readung (n/m) (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Apr 22, 10:31:46
  - I did say it was controversial (NCFC) - martirey27, Apr 22, 10:38:03
    - Well his *opinion* is wrong, inflammatory and utterly disgraceful. (NCFC) - norway, Apr 22, 10:46:57
  - Ahem. Reading. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Apr 22, 10:33:36
- Liverpool fans were *in no way* to blame for Hillsborough (NCFC) - mr chimp, Apr 22, 10:29:45
- Great stuff. Another Hillsborough debate. Just what the board needs. (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 22, 10:26:16
- ffs (n/m) (NCFC) - jAC, Apr 22, 10:25:42

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