is it not?

I think that's the very point of socialism - you are defending interests as a group.

Compare that with the 'Evil Tory' stereotype, which plays on an Evil Tory only being interested in acquiring as much wealth as possible for himself.

Posted By: CWC on March 11th 2014 at 17:41:52

Message Thread

Will the RMT hold a two-day stoppage out of respect? (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Mar 11, 15:10:55
- A huge funeral cort?ge that brings London to a standstill would be apposite (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Mar 11, 16:54:32
- am sure they'll mark his passing appropriately. he was brilliant for them (n/m) (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Mar 11, 15:12:58
  - Which made him bad for all the rest of us (n/m) (General Chat) - Ben, Mar 11, 16:14:02
    - speak for yourself (n/m) (General Chat) - matt in london, Mar 11, 17:14:49
      - I wish I was represented by a union led by someone like him (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 11, 18:56:58
    - live with it (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Mar 11, 16:21:46
      - I don't need to, he's already dead (n/m) (General Chat) - Ben, Mar 11, 16:28:42
        
        i am sure his successor will strive to represent his/her members equally well (n/m) (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Mar 11, 16:32:01
        
        I'm sure there won't. clearly the membership regard that as a salary worth paying (n/m) (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Mar 11, 16:49:17
        
        i am sure they won't. clearly the membership regard that as a salary worth paying (n/m) (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Mar 11, 16:47:27
        
        There won't be any shortage of applicants for the ?145,000 per year position (n/m) (General Chat) - Ben, Mar 11, 16:44:58
        
        Why should the position be paid less? (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Mar 11, 16:49:49
        
        I'm not saying it should (General Chat) - Ben, Mar 11, 16:54:00
        
        The MPs that Bob Crow said only yesterday should be paid more? (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Mar 11, 16:55:14
        
        I think most people would consider ?60k+ plenty (n/m) (General Chat) - Ben, Mar 11, 18:27:10
        
        more pertinently what's it got to do with anyone apart from the RMT? (n/m) (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Mar 11, 16:52:30
        
        Quite (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Mar 11, 16:54:03
  - pay rise every year he was gen sec, improved pensions etc (General Chat) - Tombs, Mar 11, 15:59:45
    - is that ultimately affordable though? (General Chat) - CWC, Mar 11, 17:08:21
      - i doubt it but there we go, that's what he did (General Chat) - Tombs, Mar 11, 17:47:26
    - he was.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 11, 16:01:33
  - But perhaps not for the rest of us. I really don't understand (General Chat) - dennis moore, Mar 11, 15:23:20
    - it wasn't his job to be brilliant for you (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Mar 11, 15:31:11
      - To many he was a total arse hole. Doesn't change just because he's dead (General Chat) - Hulk Rules, Mar 11, 18:08:45
        
        I haven't read them - all i said was he was brilliant for his members (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Mar 11, 18:13:33
        
        Agree 100% with that (n/m) (General Chat) - Hulk Rules, Mar 11, 20:38:12
      - But how does that square with Socialism? Surely you cannot (General Chat) - dennis moore, Mar 11, 15:46:52
        
        maybe them workers could get themselves organised? (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Mar 11, 15:57:46
        
        some... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 11, 16:02:27
        
        yep, but huge majority of members are not (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Mar 11, 16:06:45
        
        yes.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 11, 16:26:23
        
        they're elected by the members (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Mar 11, 16:27:43
        
        and time has shown.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 11, 16:30:53
        
        Maybe lots of things. Still makes Crow's Socialist stance (General Chat) - dennis moore, Mar 11, 16:01:50
        
        it's not hypocritical, it's just he didn't have the power to do anything wider (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Mar 11, 16:09:36
        
        Absolutely. (General Chat) - bird table, Mar 11, 16:55:31
        
        Sorry, I don't see how you can embrace a world view such as Socialism does (General Chat) - dennis moore, Mar 11, 16:53:57
        
        socialism comes in many shades of red (General Chat) - CWC, Mar 11, 17:15:31
        
        ^ this ^ (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Mar 11, 17:26:05
        
        His particular brand of Socialism looked indistinguishable (General Chat) - dennis moore, Mar 11, 17:19:10
        
        is it not? (General Chat) - CWC, Mar 11, 17:41:52
        
        Not of your group in preference to the rest of humanity. (General Chat) - dennis moore, Mar 11, 18:18:27
        
        WUT (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Mar 11, 16:59:32
        
        Yes, he should. If he wasn't a hypocrite. He could have (General Chat) - dennis moore, Mar 11, 17:06:13
        
        are you seriously claiming that Bob Crow is a hypocrite (General Chat) - Mecagoenti, Mar 11, 17:10:29
        
        No, because he jsut screwed as much money as he could (General Chat) - dennis moore, Mar 11, 17:15:47
        
        oh please (n/m) (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Mar 11, 17:08:50
        
        Oh please indeed. Screwing as much money as you can out of the rest (General Chat) - dennis moore, Mar 11, 17:13:36
        
        yeah fuck it, should have let all his members get real time pay cuts and loads sacked (n/m) (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Mar 11, 16:03:27

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