it becomes almost an existential issue for the club

if we assume the limit of our ambition (at least until we can pay much larger wages) is to finish 8th/9th.

Because that is such an unfulfilling existence, there comes a point when style becomes more important than results. Teams like Fulham and Wigan seemed to reach the point when they decided to prioritise entertainment. Stoke are trying it, Bolton and Charlton also tried it.

The problem is, all of these teams became worse as a result of abandoning their pragmatism. Not many examples of teams that have done well by trying to be more entertaining - which, for me, is a very sad indictment of the league.

Posted By: Mecagoenti on January 29th 2014 at 12:54:17

Message Thread

I fear that our last four games will bite us on the bum..... (NCFC) - Kirrie, Jan 29, 12:02:08
- We'll beat Arse on the last day to stay up and deny them the title. (NCFC) - bird table, Jan 29, 12:27:47
  - I would cry with joy... (NCFC) - yellowman, Jan 29, 12:35:25
- Worth looking at some of the fixtures in May though (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 12:25:45
- 4/1 to be relegated. Get rich innit (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 29, 12:21:25
  - this is the thing - we are relatively long odds to go down (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:22:13
    - 7/4 beginning of the season, 4/1 now (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 29, 12:33:57
      - 10/3 on bet365, 7/2 on paddypower, 7/2 on William Hill (NCFC) - Old Git, Jan 29, 12:59:29
        
        Oh, I think I might have mixed up the decimal with the fractional odds. The point still (NCFC) - pants, Jan 29, 13:05:08
        
        We were 7/2 with Paddy Power in the summer. We're 7/2 with them now, *despite* being 12th. (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 13:18:48
    - It's just because there are so many teams in danger (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 12:26:28
      - Premier League Summary in a nutshell. (n/m) (NCFC) - Pit, Jan 29, 13:12:21
      - Also suspect most money is being wagered by people who haven't seen quite how badly we're (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 29, 12:28:06
        
        we are playing badly but then perversely we're not... (NCFC) - munchen, Jan 29, 12:33:04
        
        you thought that last season as well when we were 4-1 to go down (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:29:51
        
        Weren't we one result from being above the drop zone on Goal difference (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 29, 12:38:13
        
        After we lost to Villa (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 12:30:52
        
        it was emotion ruling the head though (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:32:48
        
        fucking dismal though aren't we (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 29, 12:37:21
        
        we're dull yes, but we're not incompetent (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 29, 12:53:18
        
        yes I think we all agree, Hughton can organise a defense (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 29, 13:07:44
        
        Yes, I think that's largely fair. (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 12:36:33
        
        It's basically an almost entirely joyless experience (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 12:40:08
        
        Thats more than just a feeling. Thats hard facts staring you in the face. (n/m) (NCFC) - Pit, Jan 29, 13:09:01
        
        I think most people would agree with that (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:43:57
        
        59 goals in 61 games under Hughton (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 29, 12:50:42
        
        well, for me, entertainment in football is more than just goals (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:56:07
        
        Silly comparison. And you're changing your tune a bit there (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 29, 13:00:39
        
        ummm... we are dull and tedious# (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 29, 12:58:38
        
        perhaps in your opinion (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:59:45
        
        shared by 99% of the fanbase I imagine (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 29, 13:01:14
        
        we are the new version of Stoke (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 29, 12:59:26
        
        Yes, good point (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 12:48:09
        
        it becomes almost an existential issue for the club (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:54:17
        
        Swansea, Southampton, West Brom at times (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 29, 13:03:11
        
        it's not even about being more entertaining (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 29, 13:06:13
        
        *panic* (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 12:48:22
        
        none, other clubs are better to watch (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 29, 12:45:20
        
        If I knew what I knew but wasn't a fan (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 12:29:29
        
        We'll spawn a 1-0 at Cardiff (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 29, 12:31:14
- If it does (NCFC) - bullsch, Jan 29, 12:18:52
  - ^^^ This is so true ^^^ (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Jan 29, 12:32:03
    - Optimist ! (n/m) (NCFC) - MaxsHandler, Jan 29, 12:52:00
- The problem is that (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 29, 12:08:30
  - Twitchy bum time (n/m) (NCFC) - yellowman, Jan 29, 12:25:07
- If we don't get 13-15 points out of (NCFC) - Duck, Jan 29, 12:06:03
- last 5 games (n/m) (NCFC) - Pit, Jan 29, 12:04:53
- this just isn't true - if staying up is the main aim (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:03:47
  - We need four wins and four draws from our next 10. (n/m) (NCFC) - tim berry, Jan 29, 12:24:41
    - No we don't. 36 points will be enough. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 12:49:46
    - you think we need to be on 40 points after 33 games? (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:25:52
      - yes, assume nothing from the last fives games, that's where we are! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Jan 29, 14:43:32
      - I do not think we will get anything from our last five, so yes. (n/m) (NCFC) - tim berry, Jan 29, 12:26:28
    - Jesus hope that isn't true (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 29, 12:25:23
      - it's not obviously (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:26:18
  - "Level of performances" (NCFC) - um_gah, Jan 29, 12:19:43
  - Earth calling Mecagoenti, come in please.....over! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Jan 29, 12:09:12
  - The problem is that our current form is 1.04 points per game (NCFC) - Duck, Jan 29, 12:08:13
    - that is a statistical error (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:13:19
      - Duck can ;) (n/m) (NCFC) - mike_the_sphinx, Jan 29, 12:19:14
        
        Exactly! (NCFC) - Duck, Jan 29, 12:25:59

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