I think most people would agree with that

personally, I enjoy watching us in close games, even if the quality isn't so good.

Anyway, regarding the joyless experience, that raises several questions I think:

- How much is it the result of being in the PL?
- How much is the result of being close to our limit of achievement as a club?
- How much is it down to not having good enough players (and not paying enough to attract better)?
- How much is it down to the manager?

At the moment, nearly all of the blame is being aimed at the manager - which I don't think is fair.

Posted By: Mecagoenti on January 29th 2014 at 12:43:57

Message Thread

I fear that our last four games will bite us on the bum..... (NCFC) - Kirrie, Jan 29, 12:02:08
- We'll beat Arse on the last day to stay up and deny them the title. (NCFC) - bird table, Jan 29, 12:27:47
  - I would cry with joy... (NCFC) - yellowman, Jan 29, 12:35:25
- Worth looking at some of the fixtures in May though (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 12:25:45
- 4/1 to be relegated. Get rich innit (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 29, 12:21:25
  - this is the thing - we are relatively long odds to go down (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:22:13
    - 7/4 beginning of the season, 4/1 now (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 29, 12:33:57
      - 10/3 on bet365, 7/2 on paddypower, 7/2 on William Hill (NCFC) - Old Git, Jan 29, 12:59:29
        
        Oh, I think I might have mixed up the decimal with the fractional odds. The point still (NCFC) - pants, Jan 29, 13:05:08
        
        We were 7/2 with Paddy Power in the summer. We're 7/2 with them now, *despite* being 12th. (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 13:18:48
    - It's just because there are so many teams in danger (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 12:26:28
      - Premier League Summary in a nutshell. (n/m) (NCFC) - Pit, Jan 29, 13:12:21
      - Also suspect most money is being wagered by people who haven't seen quite how badly we're (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 29, 12:28:06
        
        we are playing badly but then perversely we're not... (NCFC) - munchen, Jan 29, 12:33:04
        
        you thought that last season as well when we were 4-1 to go down (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:29:51
        
        Weren't we one result from being above the drop zone on Goal difference (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 29, 12:38:13
        
        After we lost to Villa (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 12:30:52
        
        it was emotion ruling the head though (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:32:48
        
        fucking dismal though aren't we (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 29, 12:37:21
        
        we're dull yes, but we're not incompetent (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 29, 12:53:18
        
        yes I think we all agree, Hughton can organise a defense (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 29, 13:07:44
        
        Yes, I think that's largely fair. (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 12:36:33
        
        It's basically an almost entirely joyless experience (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 12:40:08
        
        Thats more than just a feeling. Thats hard facts staring you in the face. (n/m) (NCFC) - Pit, Jan 29, 13:09:01
        
        I think most people would agree with that (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:43:57
        
        59 goals in 61 games under Hughton (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 29, 12:50:42
        
        well, for me, entertainment in football is more than just goals (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:56:07
        
        Silly comparison. And you're changing your tune a bit there (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 29, 13:00:39
        
        ummm... we are dull and tedious# (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 29, 12:58:38
        
        perhaps in your opinion (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:59:45
        
        shared by 99% of the fanbase I imagine (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 29, 13:01:14
        
        we are the new version of Stoke (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 29, 12:59:26
        
        Yes, good point (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 12:48:09
        
        it becomes almost an existential issue for the club (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:54:17
        
        Swansea, Southampton, West Brom at times (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 29, 13:03:11
        
        it's not even about being more entertaining (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 29, 13:06:13
        
        *panic* (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 12:48:22
        
        none, other clubs are better to watch (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 29, 12:45:20
        
        If I knew what I knew but wasn't a fan (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 12:29:29
        
        We'll spawn a 1-0 at Cardiff (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 29, 12:31:14
- If it does (NCFC) - bullsch, Jan 29, 12:18:52
  - ^^^ This is so true ^^^ (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Jan 29, 12:32:03
    - Optimist ! (n/m) (NCFC) - MaxsHandler, Jan 29, 12:52:00
- The problem is that (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 29, 12:08:30
  - Twitchy bum time (n/m) (NCFC) - yellowman, Jan 29, 12:25:07
- If we don't get 13-15 points out of (NCFC) - Duck, Jan 29, 12:06:03
- last 5 games (n/m) (NCFC) - Pit, Jan 29, 12:04:53
- this just isn't true - if staying up is the main aim (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:03:47
  - We need four wins and four draws from our next 10. (n/m) (NCFC) - tim berry, Jan 29, 12:24:41
    - No we don't. 36 points will be enough. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Jan 29, 12:49:46
    - you think we need to be on 40 points after 33 games? (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:25:52
      - yes, assume nothing from the last fives games, that's where we are! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Jan 29, 14:43:32
      - I do not think we will get anything from our last five, so yes. (n/m) (NCFC) - tim berry, Jan 29, 12:26:28
    - Jesus hope that isn't true (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 29, 12:25:23
      - it's not obviously (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:26:18
  - "Level of performances" (NCFC) - um_gah, Jan 29, 12:19:43
  - Earth calling Mecagoenti, come in please.....over! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Jan 29, 12:09:12
  - The problem is that our current form is 1.04 points per game (NCFC) - Duck, Jan 29, 12:08:13
    - that is a statistical error (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 29, 12:13:19
      - Duck can ;) (n/m) (NCFC) - mike_the_sphinx, Jan 29, 12:19:14
        
        Exactly! (NCFC) - Duck, Jan 29, 12:25:59

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