I am nowhere near an outer but what has really annoyed me with CH is

his bowing to fan/outside pressure to play 2 up front...simply bloody stupid. Yesterday we were awful, hoofing it, no real chances from open play and when Redmond put two amazing crosses in the 6 yard box first half there was no one there to get on the end despite 2 up front. Anyone with half a football brain could see we were getting overrun in midfield and unfortunately at this level more often or not that equals one thing, a loss, unless you bypass the midfield and go long and it seems that's what we've started to do.
Wes must be tearing his hair out because he is exactly the type of player that should be playing, until we get an upgrade (and by the way he gives the ball away half what Fer does).
I am fast becoming tired of the football we are playing, not because its not attacking enough but because it not progressive enough. We need to progress, keep the ball, pass and play with a strong manager who sticks to his principles even if the fans don't like it.

Posted By: BINMEN8R on December 27th 2013 at 10:48:15

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I am nowhere near an outer but what has really annoyed me with CH is (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Dec 27, 10:48:15
- 4-4-2 is fine as long as we are creating good chances, as against Swansea and WBA (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 27, 11:33:46
  - trouble is (NCFC) - mr carra, Dec 27, 11:43:52
    - it's 4411, that is FACT, it's just a big a bloke who's reasonable in the air and on the (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 27, 12:00:15
      - he plays further forward than Wes (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 27, 12:38:33
        
        because he's not as mobile, we've sacrifriced inventiveness, and mbility (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 27, 12:45:47
    - Agreed (n/m) (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Dec 27, 11:57:48
    - True (NCFC) - duke of york, Dec 27, 11:50:02
  - But I would like to see a footballing philosophy developed under a manager (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Dec 27, 11:39:23
    - This. (NCFC) - LeicesterYellow, Dec 27, 13:06:43
      - no, the reason being being we haven't the creativity to pass through (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 27, 13:14:00
        
        Not necessarily, (NCFC) - LeicesterYellow, Dec 27, 13:47:23
        
        no, we haven't the ability to pass through most midfields, if you'd watched (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 27, 13:58:51
        
        So what would you suggest? (NCFC) - LeicesterYellow, Dec 27, 19:47:30
    - no, you'te just too simplistic in lots of things you say, i agree with what you said in yo (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 27, 12:06:38
      - Yeas you are right..Swansea and Southampton has developed over a period of time. (n/m) (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Dec 27, 12:18:13
        
        swansea have through successive managers with a footballing philosophy, Southampton have b (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 27, 12:25:24
- dree against swans and Sunderland, beat wba eith this formation, which is still 4411, you (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 27, 11:25:57
  - too many mistakes ti alter ffs. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 27, 11:28:04
- Played 4-4-2 at Brum (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Dec 27, 11:23:00
- Jeez. Being overrun in midfield is only a worry if it leads to excess goal threats, and it (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Dec 27, 10:57:04
  - And excess goal threats well I'm sure I saw our goal threatened plenty yesterday. (n/m) (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Dec 27, 11:01:46
    - One free kick through a porous wall, and one 25 yard shot through which should have (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Dec 27, 11:15:24
      - Well yes thats how they scored but they threatened more than that. (n/m) (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Dec 27, 11:18:15
        
        so did we, despite Snodgrass being almost totally ineffective (n/m) (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Dec 27, 11:31:25
        
        I agree we did at times, but not from open play...it was long ball rubbish. (n/m) (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Dec 27, 11:34:25
  - So you're saying we should go long? As for Wes giving it away..you're having a laugh. (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Dec 27, 11:00:08
    - Of course I'm not saying we should go long, though it can bring goals (Nathan Dyer) but th (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Dec 27, 11:06:41
      - Like I say below I believe we do have the technical ability and I'm not suggesting we (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Dec 27, 11:11:25
- we're usually awful whatever the formation tbf (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 27, 10:51:30
- "his bowing to fan/outside pressure to play 2 up front..." (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Dec 27, 10:50:49
  - Rubbish...Hooper played on his own numerous times for Celtic and I'd be amazed (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Dec 27, 10:53:28
    - agreed. it's a question of getting the ball to them early. RVW always seems to me to be (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Dec 27, 11:26:14
    - PL is a higher standard (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Dec 27, 10:56:31
      - He played up front on his (and done it well) in the Champions League. (n/m) (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Dec 27, 10:57:40
        
        We don't have the right midfeld to play like that (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Dec 27, 11:01:09
        
        Have to agree to disagree because I think we do. (n/m) (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Dec 27, 11:05:15

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