is it really a shambles?

against teams not in the 'elite' group (plus in-form Everton) we have conceded:

1 dodgy penalty against Hull
0 against Southampton
1 against Villa
0 against Stoke
0 against Cardiff

Saturday was clearly a shambles but surely not enough to make a sweeping judgement on?

Posted By: mr carra on November 4th 2013 at 13:50:49

Message Thread

Yes Please: Bergkamp, Biesla, Zola, Solsjaer, Meulensteen..Ok Then: Phelan,Lennon,Howe, (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Nov 4, 13:10:24
- has Phelan ever expressed any interest in being a manager rather than an assistant? (NCFC) - mr carra, Nov 4, 13:42:18
  - If he was capable I'm sure someone would have offered him, a shed load of cash to try (n/m) (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Nov 4, 13:51:49
    - How many years was Steve Clarke an assistant manager? (n/m) (NCFC) - XXL16s_babyface, Nov 4, 14:16:43
- Solskjaer Learnt management under Ferguson... the other Prem Boss to do that? (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Nov 4, 13:19:57
  - Solkjaer's stock appears to be growing...may need to act fast. (n/m) (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Nov 4, 13:30:50
    - on what evidence though other than Villa enquiring last season? (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Nov 4, 13:50:45
  - Bilic would be nice, but he just signed in Turkey (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Nov 4, 13:21:39
    - I'm not sure we would be rock and roll enough anyway (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Nov 4, 13:32:28
- Doesn't the fact that pulis, warnock, mcleish, curbishley and Lennon are even being talked (NCFC) - Kangol Canary, Nov 4, 13:17:07
  - we've been in the abyss since xmas (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 4, 13:19:45
    - and on and on and.......... (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Nov 4, 13:42:10
      - ... (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 4, 13:43:32
        
        Lol - guilty (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Nov 4, 13:46:37
        
        hi dad (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 4, 13:48:00
    - vmt. wheels fell off before xmas last year and that's about 6 weeks away (n/m) (NCFC) - earlydoors, Nov 4, 13:21:34
      - One of the most depressing things for me is how Swans and Soton have kicked on. (NCFC) - Jono, Nov 4, 13:24:33
        
        Saints who we beat and Swansea lost to Cardiff yesterday (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Nov 4, 13:27:41
        
        neither are light years ahead of us...It was slightly in jest too! (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Nov 4, 13:54:35
        
        What a dumb argument.. They have kicked on in any sane persons eyes (NCFC) - phrankin, Nov 4, 13:49:54
        
        yeah i forgot we were skint and spending sod all (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 4, 13:30:16
        
        It is a relative comparison over our time in the prem not a one off close season (n/m) (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Nov 4, 13:33:55
        
        we are 12th on the net spend charts for the last 5 years (NCFC) - phrankin, Nov 4, 13:52:25
        
        But lets not think about how much they have paid for players (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Nov 4, 14:03:00
        
        Well yes... (NCFC) - Jono, Nov 4, 13:30:02
        
        the problem is we haven't progressed at all (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 4, 13:31:55
        
        is it really a shambles? (NCFC) - mr carra, Nov 4, 13:50:49
        
        yeah maybe shambles was a bit harsh (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 4, 13:56:20
        
        OK, but it isn't just about totals though (NCFC) - mr carra, Nov 4, 14:02:42
        
        Bassong is clearly not 100% fit and or dreadfully out of form (n/m) (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Nov 4, 13:35:23
        
        either way shouldn't bennett be playing instead? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 4, 13:36:09
        
        We all agree that Turner and Bassong are our best partnership may CH feels that is more so (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Nov 4, 13:41:48
        
        didn't Bennett play at Man U? (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Nov 4, 13:57:16
        
        But against Cardiff Bassong could barely run second half (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Nov 4, 14:10:44
        
        I think the squad is better. (NCFC) - Jono, Nov 4, 13:33:38
        
        i agree (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 4, 13:35:10
        
        TBF Swansea are only 3 points above us, although I get your point... (n/m) (NCFC) - Vivid Data Shark, Nov 4, 13:26:36
        
        Common denominator = Type/Style of football (n/m) (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Nov 4, 13:25:55
  - if hoots sacked (NCFC) - hunters989, Nov 4, 13:19:20
  - Not really, it is plastic fan scaremonger talk (NCFC) - phrankin, Nov 4, 13:18:53
  - 100%... (n/m) (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Nov 4, 13:18:34
  - no, would rather trust mcnally to pick someone better (n/m) (NCFC) - earlydoors, Nov 4, 13:18:28
- hoddle, holloway, phelan no no no (n/m) (NCFC) - earlydoors, Nov 4, 13:15:59
- Holloway... No way (NCFC) - phrankin, Nov 4, 13:13:06
  - Prob agree on reflection although I'd keep Lennon in the Ok Then's. (n/m) (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Nov 4, 13:18:07

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