Re: Scrimmage discussion and Rob Butler

I've been one of the people that has criticised Rob Butler. It's possible he's improved. I don't know because I can't listen to his shows. I was so put off by the ones I heard. This may be unfair, perhaps he needed longer to settle into his style. I respect what Dr D says so I'm sure he's a nice chap but it's too late for me.

My problem with him was he claimed to talk for us fans ('We like teams who...') but he would say things I would cringe over, that didn't represent my thoughts at all like calling Man City a 'tin pot' club because they had rich foreign owners. Each week he would make judgements about if other teams were tinpot or not. It came across so arrogantly to me.

I think my issue was if he wanted to say it, as his point of view, as a fan, then no problem. Everyone's entitled to their own opinions. But don't make out it's my opinion (not all 'fans' think the same and I didn't like being lumped in with his views!) And if he's saying these comments in the role of a presenter not a fan - as he has expressed, then he is exactly the kind of presenter I can't listen to! I'm probably old fashioned here but I can't bear presenters who air their views so strongly that they make it difficult for others to disagree. I want presenters to facilitate debate. Definitely have a point of view, but don't dominate. Neil had it down to a tee!

Someone mentioned how lucky we are to have two local radio shows dedicated to Norwich city. Well I feel excluded from them (having previously listened to every show, religiously, from the very first one). They are two blokes doing banter - not especially witty. A large part of the ones i heard was made up of them joking about each other not the football. (Has that changed now?) I think if it was just one dose of RB I could cope but he does The Scrimmage, Canary call and lots of the Saturday pre match build up! (AND post match stuff on a Monday!)

I listen to the Pink un podcast which I think is very well done - knowledgeable panel and always one fan to give their views - but it's a very straight review of the match, not all the quirky bits.

I really miss the old scrimmage and want it back!

It's could be my longest ever post on here. You can see it's touched a nerve. I'm clearly not dealing as well with it as I'd hoped!

Posted By: Bravo win or die on September 5th 2013 at 20:27:30

Message Thread

Re: Scrimmage discussion and Rob Butler (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 20:27:30
- That's pretty much spot on, but I do think he has improved a bit this season... (n/m) (NCFC) - Vivid Data Shark, Sep 5, 21:34:39
- Good post!! (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Sep 5, 21:32:09
- Agreed (NCFC) - Buford T Justice, Sep 5, 21:26:00
- I agree with you (NCFC) - shoddy, Sep 5, 21:14:32
- Well said. (NCFC) - bird table, Sep 5, 21:10:16
  - what a load of Bollox (NCFC) - SaveWithSammy, Sep 6, 00:21:32
- I think they should have guest hosts - this weeks scrimmage with Garry and Jumbs ft Tombs (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Sep 5, 20:56:49
  - Sure fire ratings winner! (n/m) (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 21:03:57
    - next weeks scrimmage ft DandyNLP and JimTim Two professional heavyweights of radio (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Sep 5, 21:06:02
      - Just put the microphone on the table at the Kingses. (NCFC) - APB, Sep 5, 21:08:49
        
        now that would be fluffing excellent - ABP singing German Beer songs (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Sep 5, 21:10:34
        
        They could do worse than have a Radio Roth type programme. (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 21:26:48
        
        rath (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Sep 5, 21:32:41
        
        That could be our first topic for discussion (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 21:37:11
        
        rathroth v pinkuns (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Sep 5, 21:43:23
        
        Pinkuns are so tinpot (n/m) (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 21:45:20
        
        lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Sep 5, 21:49:01
- I concur. (NCFC) - Beaver Las Vegas, Sep 5, 20:51:31
- I've no doubt he'll read this post (n/m) (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Sep 5, 20:47:04
  - How come Kenton? Do you have contact with him - or anyone else at RNorfolk? (n/m) (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 20:56:07
    - He posts on here. (n/m) (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Sep 5, 21:33:23
      - Very rarely though (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 21:39:19
        
        Bucks? (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Sep 5, 22:04:55
- I don't think I've ever agreed more with a post on here. I hope RB reads it. (n/m) (NCFC) - Dunney, Sep 5, 20:41:35
  - Not sure he's the one I want to get the message. It's clearly his style, he's never going (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 20:44:58
- Spot on (NCFC) - norway, Sep 5, 20:35:56
  - lol (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Sep 5, 20:48:44
- Wow, is this available on kindle (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 5, 20:30:29
  - You can have it as one of those free offers that Audible keep doing. (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 20:42:07

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