A good manager plays to the strengths of the squad, not the other way round...

We were building something special under Lambert, all that was needed was a few better players in defence and cdm, not a complete overhaul.

Posted By: Common Sense Police on April 27th 2013 at 19:36:51

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Why do some people think that Hughton has had a hard time managing us? (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 19:22:29
- I just think if you can't appreciate losing very narrowly, and then in games like Arsenal (NCFC) - pants, Apr 27, 19:48:51
  - I don't think "he knows fuck all tactically". (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 19:54:38
  - Today is complete proof of that (NCFC) - pants, Apr 27, 19:51:00
    - My anger over today has nothing to with relegation fears (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 27, 19:57:48
      - Completely agree. (n/m) (NCFC) - bird table, Apr 27, 20:23:52
      - Same here (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 20:02:21
        
        The scoring charts will really say it all though (NCFC) - pants, Apr 27, 20:09:35
        
        Playing one up front is not the problem, Moro was great there last season (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 20:16:50
        
        we create less chances than last season (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 27, 20:12:29
        
        yep.. agree that our key players last season have let us down a bit this year (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 20:13:45
        
        Despite the fact that we've already discussed this and you've been shown (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 20:17:41
        
        Which ones? Holt (in a new lone striker role) and ? (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 27, 20:15:30
        
        Morison (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 20:15:56
        
        A bit unfair on Moro.... Even if he isn't that good. (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 27, 20:21:38
        
        next season he'll need to try and beat more of the shit teams (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 27, 20:05:00
      - Tbf everyone expected that approach to the game. One of the reasons I didn't go (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Apr 27, 19:59:54
        
        I know. I've stopped going away as much because of it as well. (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 27, 20:01:34
      - 3 goals in 9 games at bottom half teams - shameful (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 27, 19:59:08
    - no shots on target (again) can do that dude (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 27, 19:53:36
      - but we had FIVE at wigan LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 27, 19:54:12
  - deserved to win? If you want to go down that route, KK tripped over his own feet (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 27, 19:50:27
- because of a small section of fans moaning? (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Apr 27, 19:45:08
  - I think he has added great quality, which makes me question why we're struggling even more (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 19:50:47
    - those teams are doing worse (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Apr 27, 19:59:42
      - You really don't think those teams are far worse? (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 20:04:31
        
        the teams are arguably worse (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Apr 27, 20:19:52
        
        ...but Benteke isn't in a half decent squad, Wigan are doing worse despite having more (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 20:27:46
        
        also, I think the (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Apr 27, 20:47:21
        
        worse than last year or (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Apr 27, 20:44:36
        
        Look at Newcastle.... probably the worst side at Carrow Road all season. (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 27, 20:32:22
- POTY (NCFC) - Pragmatist, Apr 27, 19:44:20
- similar to something I posted earlier (NCFC) - Sugbad The Bad, Apr 27, 19:35:17
  - Great post to be fair (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 19:39:47
- I remeber when Hoots first took over and talked about the.. (NCFC) - promethian1, Apr 27, 19:33:03
  - A good manager plays to the strengths of the squad, not the other way round... (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 19:36:51
    - Agreed! (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Apr 27, 19:46:11
    - Hear Hear! I want an omelette but have no eggs. I have the makings of a risotto. (NCFC) - Sugbad The Bad, Apr 27, 19:41:43
      - Good post. (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 19:43:03
    - and he fucked off. Board apooints different manager who has different approach (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Apr 27, 19:39:31
    - wrong (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 19:38:42
      - Yeah Bullshit... Benno given some games has shown he isn't shit after all (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 27, 19:43:37
      - Where is your proof for this? (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 19:40:47
        
        it's called second season syndrome (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 19:41:28
        
        Like Swansea (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 19:44:37
        
        potd (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 27, 19:46:35
        
        QPR.... spent a bloody fortune and are now going down... so its not all about the ? (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 27, 19:45:21
        
        Swansea.. haha this is what it boils down to (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 19:45:16
        
        Just avoid all of the other great points, go ahead... (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 19:56:57
    - You didnt read my post... there is no guareentee we wouldnt have struggled with (NCFC) - promethian1, Apr 27, 19:38:18
      - We never tried last season's tactics though (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 19:42:06
    - the whole philosophy changed (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 27, 19:37:47
      - In that case its the boards fault then as they would have interviewed him (NCFC) - promethian1, Apr 27, 19:41:34
        
        Possibly. (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 20:08:05
        
        yes they should have kept lambert sweet (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 27, 19:45:04
- I disagree about the squad (NCFC) - King, Apr 27, 19:28:21
  - Did you even read what I wrote? (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 19:32:21
    - Not really, because I find you quite condescending and dull. (NCFC) - King, Apr 27, 19:41:39
      - ^^^GOTTEN TO^^^ (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 19:45:55
        
        I find you condescending too (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Apr 27, 19:51:27
        
        Good (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 19:58:19
        
        i think you're amazing (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 27, 20:05:59
    - why are villa doing so shit with lambert? (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 19:34:02
      - Lerner has been selling their better players for years (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 19:38:25
        
        last season, we conceded more shots per game than any other team in the league (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 19:40:31
        
        Villa haven't scored the goals this season either. Why? Because they're far worse than us (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 20:00:31
        
        I think Villa's squad is better than ours (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 20:05:07
        
        LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 20:10:14
        
        how can you say N'Zogbia is shit (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 20:12:37
        
        He has been at Villa for two years and been very poor (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 20:18:59
        
        he just wanted the big contract (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 27, 20:20:50
      - they've been on a downward spiral for years (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 27, 19:35:55
        
        it's because they can't keep clean sheets and have to score 2 or 3 to win a game (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 19:37:47
        
        he bought defenders in too, didn't he, lambert? (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Apr 27, 19:41:36
        
        lol. That's what it's down to then, 'spirals' (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Apr 27, 19:36:59
        
        Lambert spent 20 mill (n/m) (NCFC) - promethian1, Apr 27, 19:36:54
        
        doesn't greatly help an awful squad (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 27, 19:39:04
        
        lol - he signed several expensive internationals (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 19:42:26
        
        they barely had any quality (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 27, 19:45:30
        
        well, they had (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 19:47:17
        
        Warnock and N'Zogbia are fucking shig (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 20:40:00
        
        *shit (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 20:40:41
        
        Lambert was an idiot there in falling out with some of their best players (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 27, 19:49:13
        
        where did you read that? (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 20:05:32
        
        contract issues and over rated (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 27, 19:49:07
        
        Like this season then? 'The boy's done triffic' (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Apr 27, 19:50:08
        
        they're about as bad as us (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 27, 19:50:46
        
        All that playing budget, and they're at the same level as us. (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Apr 27, 19:53:14
        
        doesn't help when they were so far behind us (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 27, 20:08:04
        
        best not to speak too soon... 4 points below, game in hand (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 27, 19:51:33
        
        Agbonlawhore too, Weimann. Cracking forward line (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Apr 27, 19:48:51
        
        Aga-overated.... Weimann-nothing special. (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 27, 20:14:56
        
        First shit, second average. (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 20:11:07
        
        Just needed to sort out the defence really, but he hasn't (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Apr 27, 19:49:29
  - vmt (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 19:30:12
    - More revisionist history (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 19:35:11
      - Tierney.. lol (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 19:44:38
        
        Moro had 4 starts, WOW! Tierney was our best player at the start of last season as many on (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 19:47:56
        
        Tierney's stats on whoscored, are almost identical to Garrido's (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 27, 20:45:02
- Excellent post (n/m) (NCFC) - Fozzybear, Apr 27, 19:27:53
- vmt (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 27, 19:23:44
  - I'm a troll (NCFC) - Pragmatist, Apr 27, 19:26:32
- I'm not sure the squad he inherited was that good. Lambert somehow had them firing (n/m) (NCFC) - Only1Doherty, Apr 27, 19:23:15
  - Vaughan shouldn't have been looned out (NCFC) - LowestoftBoy, Apr 27, 19:27:35
    - I still don't rate him, not blaming Hoots for that. (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 19:28:50
  - Had them firing with tactics that suited them. (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Apr 27, 19:26:56
  - Wasn't in a relegation scrap (NCFC) - Pragmatist, Apr 27, 19:25:36
    - we haven't been in a relgation scrap this season since the end of october (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 27, 19:29:12
      - hoot and the players would disagree (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 27, 19:29:53
    - cos most of the old lot have turned crap under hoot's system (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 27, 19:28:14

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