Equal idiocy...

...is quite right.

I cycle a fair bit and even on quiet town roads cars will routinely pull out right in front of me without bothering to look. If I "act like a car", i.e. cycle in the middle of the road and give hand signals well before I act then potentially dangerous spots like mini roundabouts and dodgy corners actually seem quite safe - it's the bits you think you'd be safe which are where I've had most near-misses.

I also drive a fair bit and the number of t**ts on bikes who just dart out in front of you is unbelievable, as is the number of people who ride bikes with no lights or reflective gear after dark.

Of course there's a huge onus on a car driver to take extra care as they're in charge of, well, a car; but there's also a big onus on bike riders to look where they're going and consider other road users.

And yes, cycle lanes for all - bizarrely some fairly s**t places like Slough do this well - would make a big difference.

Posted By: Old Man on August 2nd 2012 at 10:20:30

Message Thread

Cyclist killed in Norwich (General Chat) - Old Git, Aug 2, 10:00:51
- Please don't use this accident as an example! (General Chat) - DICKY, Aug 2, 10:08:25
  - ^^^ Driver of a black Vauxhall Vectra ^^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - bird table, Aug 2, 10:10:23
    - .....but has a point! (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Aug 2, 10:13:38
      - Equal idiocy... (General Chat) - Old Man, Aug 2, 10:20:30
    - Nope - not quite. (General Chat) - DICKY, Aug 2, 10:12:43
      - Yeah - I'm not a rider/driver of either. Just an idiot pedestrian! (n/m) (General Chat) - bird table, Aug 2, 10:16:32
        
        Unfortunately - you're right! (General Chat) - DICKY, Aug 2, 10:20:42
        
        I think you're missing the point (General Chat) - Old Git, Aug 2, 10:23:38
        
        Ah...I see! (General Chat) - DICKY, Aug 2, 10:25:17
        
        How dare you come on here with your talk of needing to appreciate the facts?? (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Aug 2, 10:26:20
        
        I know, I know.... (General Chat) - DICKY, Aug 2, 10:27:12
        
        Amen, brother. On that the whole board can unite. (General Chat) - Old Man, Aug 2, 10:27:44
- There's a shocking filter light near me, that doesn't react unless a car drives up (General Chat) - pants, Aug 2, 10:07:08
  - Call me an old pedantic cunt if you wish but those lights are triggered by induction loops (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Aug 2, 10:17:16
    - You're an old pedantic cunt, Mike (General Chat) - Old Git, Aug 2, 10:17:59
      - We could form a club? (n/m) (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Aug 2, 10:19:42
        
        There already is one (General Chat) - Old Git, Aug 2, 10:24:34
        
        What do you mean by pedantic, exactly? Which definition are you using? (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Aug 2, 10:21:54
        
        You're in Old Man; founder member ;) (n/m) (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Aug 2, 10:23:00
  - We've all got our fingers crossed (General Chat) - Old Git, Aug 2, 10:14:19
    - PS ;))))) (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Aug 2, 10:29:59
    - No need. (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Aug 2, 10:27:17
    - not nice (n/m) (General Chat) - Pixelman, Aug 2, 10:24:59
      - Only a joke (General Chat) - Old Git, Aug 2, 10:27:30
        
        then yellow card for lack of whinky smiley icon thing (n/m) (General Chat) - Pixelman, Aug 2, 10:28:38
  - Over here they have separate lights for cyclists (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 2, 10:08:45
- You may quip, but there's a lot of truth in that. Compare the cycling experience between (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 2, 10:07:04
  - Yes, they've been building cycling "superhighways" in Denmark for several years now (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Aug 2, 10:09:17
- they are spending 22 million on doing up their own offices though (General Chat) - Tombs, Aug 2, 10:05:12
  - Hope they get some feng shui for that price (General Chat) - Old Git, Aug 2, 10:07:52
    - best be a fact finding committee sent to japan for a fortnight (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Aug 2, 10:09:12

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