You may quip, but there's a lot of truth in that. Compare the cycling experience between

UK and the Netherlands.

I can cycle from the Hague to Amsterdam (or indeed most parts of the country) without having to cycle even partly on a road.

Posted By: Steve in Holland on August 2nd 2012 at 10:07:04

Message Thread

Cyclist killed in Norwich (General Chat) - Old Git, Aug 2, 10:00:51
- Please don't use this accident as an example! (General Chat) - DICKY, Aug 2, 10:08:25
  - ^^^ Driver of a black Vauxhall Vectra ^^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - bird table, Aug 2, 10:10:23
    - .....but has a point! (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Aug 2, 10:13:38
      - Equal idiocy... (General Chat) - Old Man, Aug 2, 10:20:30
    - Nope - not quite. (General Chat) - DICKY, Aug 2, 10:12:43
      - Yeah - I'm not a rider/driver of either. Just an idiot pedestrian! (n/m) (General Chat) - bird table, Aug 2, 10:16:32
        
        Unfortunately - you're right! (General Chat) - DICKY, Aug 2, 10:20:42
        
        I think you're missing the point (General Chat) - Old Git, Aug 2, 10:23:38
        
        Ah...I see! (General Chat) - DICKY, Aug 2, 10:25:17
        
        How dare you come on here with your talk of needing to appreciate the facts?? (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Aug 2, 10:26:20
        
        I know, I know.... (General Chat) - DICKY, Aug 2, 10:27:12
        
        Amen, brother. On that the whole board can unite. (General Chat) - Old Man, Aug 2, 10:27:44
- There's a shocking filter light near me, that doesn't react unless a car drives up (General Chat) - pants, Aug 2, 10:07:08
  - Call me an old pedantic cunt if you wish but those lights are triggered by induction loops (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Aug 2, 10:17:16
    - You're an old pedantic cunt, Mike (General Chat) - Old Git, Aug 2, 10:17:59
      - We could form a club? (n/m) (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Aug 2, 10:19:42
        
        There already is one (General Chat) - Old Git, Aug 2, 10:24:34
        
        What do you mean by pedantic, exactly? Which definition are you using? (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Aug 2, 10:21:54
        
        You're in Old Man; founder member ;) (n/m) (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Aug 2, 10:23:00
  - We've all got our fingers crossed (General Chat) - Old Git, Aug 2, 10:14:19
    - PS ;))))) (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Aug 2, 10:29:59
    - No need. (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Aug 2, 10:27:17
    - not nice (n/m) (General Chat) - Pixelman, Aug 2, 10:24:59
      - Only a joke (General Chat) - Old Git, Aug 2, 10:27:30
        
        then yellow card for lack of whinky smiley icon thing (n/m) (General Chat) - Pixelman, Aug 2, 10:28:38
  - Over here they have separate lights for cyclists (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 2, 10:08:45
- You may quip, but there's a lot of truth in that. Compare the cycling experience between (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 2, 10:07:04
  - Yes, they've been building cycling "superhighways" in Denmark for several years now (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Aug 2, 10:09:17
- they are spending 22 million on doing up their own offices though (General Chat) - Tombs, Aug 2, 10:05:12
  - Hope they get some feng shui for that price (General Chat) - Old Git, Aug 2, 10:07:52
    - best be a fact finding committee sent to japan for a fortnight (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Aug 2, 10:09:12

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