very wrong

the thing is though it's got bits and pieces of what was in the Lib Dem Manifesto in it

- getting rid of the link between where you live and which GP you can register with

- scrapping of PCTs (to be replaced by local council and GPs so there comes the 'postcode lottery' but that recognises that not all of England's health needs are the same, that's a swings and roundabouts thing imo)

- putting front-line staff in charge of budgets and spending decisions

as for choices of provider - well that was in all 3 main parties' manifestos and to an extent so was the turning over of decisions to hospital nurses and doctors etc, even the right to register with a doctors' surgery close to work was in Labour's - so not a massive difference there either

Posted By: Ralf Scrampton on February 23rd 2012 at 13:13:42

Message Thread

NHS BILL GUIDE (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Feb 23, 12:20:38
- What about the positives? (NCFC) - Ben, Feb 23, 14:19:18
  - Those to benifit will be (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Feb 23, 15:01:49
    - you fail to mention... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 23, 15:20:11
      - That's the main problem... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Feb 23, 15:40:17
- Larry, I assume you may be a doctor like myself.... (NCFC) - admckechnie, Feb 23, 12:42:28
  - No I'm not a Dr but have been keeping a very close eye on things (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Feb 23, 12:55:26
    - Well it's simply not true, doctors are bound by law to (NCFC) - admckechnie, Feb 23, 13:02:33
      - Doctors are bound by law but others are not.... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Feb 23, 13:11:39
        
        think the main point is being missed here..... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 23, 13:20:42
        
        that doesn't mean any reform is the right reform, chelts (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Feb 23, 13:30:24
        
        I agree....... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 23, 13:32:46
        
        It's certainly been a very slow bankruptcy - since 1945, apart from a brief (NCFC) - CB41, Feb 23, 13:35:44
        
        I use (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 23, 13:39:38
        
        I'll just stay dormant. If my experience of the NHS on Friday night is anything to go by (NCFC) - CB41, Feb 23, 13:46:11
        
        we all go by personal experience.... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 23, 14:28:56
        
        Oh the professionalism and response was second to none on Friday, it's just the facilities (NCFC) - CB41, Feb 23, 14:30:44
        
        Exactly...if you read my post!! (n/m) (NCFC) - admckechnie, Feb 23, 13:24:06
        
        despite.... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 23, 13:30:35
        
        I know, that's the danger. This bill is not right but (NCFC) - admckechnie, Feb 23, 13:33:25
        
        careful.,... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 23, 13:37:26
        
        so why waste billions on an unneccessary reorganisation (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Feb 23, 13:23:36
        
        sorry but i disagree........ (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 23, 13:27:19
        
        but THIS reform though Chelts? (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Feb 23, 13:45:27
        
        That's because it is driven by ideology, much like all the reforms of the preceding (NCFC) - CB41, Feb 23, 13:47:14
        
        most refroms are.... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 23, 14:24:00
        
        Have to take your word for that Chelts, I neither read the Guardian nor listen to (NCFC) - CB41, Feb 23, 14:29:45
        
        Believe what you like but it's this sort of stuff that means (NCFC) - admckechnie, Feb 23, 13:18:36
- Not just that - tranferring of commisioning responsibilities to GPs is a direct path to pr (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Feb 23, 12:37:15
  - ^^ Nail - head ^^ GPs being set up to fail... Ben Goldacre... (NCFC) - woody, Feb 23, 12:44:43
- BMA statement of current position Feb 2012... (NCFC) - woody, Feb 23, 12:32:58
  - and.. (NCFC) - woody, Feb 23, 12:34:34
- What can a poor boy do (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 23, 12:32:16
- "- The govt has said that NHS hospitals won't be saved should they fall into financial dif (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Feb 23, 12:32:08
  - The entire Lib Dem front bench does support this Bill. Are they right or wrong to do so? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Feb 23, 12:48:00
    - very wrong (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Feb 23, 13:13:42
- Thanks... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Feb 23, 12:30:03
  - Lots of sympathy with the confoosion (NCFC) - Ted Bowger, Feb 23, 12:59:21
    - agreed........ (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 23, 13:35:36
- Never mind that, what about Hayley McQueen's gigantic bosom? (n/m) (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Feb 23, 12:24:16

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