The point was, The government was criticizing the NHS on Cancer

The Guardian concluded that NHS Cancer figures contradicted their claims. But if rather than cancer death rates (open too many external factors), you choose cancer survival rates (a more relevant figure) they are not lying.

The Guardian is becoming a sort of left wing Daily Mail of late. Not a bad thing mind!

Posted By: phrankin on November 10th 2011 at 13:59:29

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Govt lies about NHS (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Nov 10, 13:05:47
- the guardian has become the mirror lately.... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 10, 14:04:55
  - it's a far better read than it used to be (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Nov 10, 14:08:00
- NHS on the NHS (NCFC) - phrankin, Nov 10, 13:27:54
  - 2007 data (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Nov 10, 13:49:39
  - touche! (n/m) (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 10, 13:42:18
- govt lies about everything (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Nov 10, 13:24:52
- Bournemouth has a university? (NCFC) - King, Nov 10, 13:12:22
- I dunno - I was under the impression our survival rates were relatively poor (NCFC) - phrankin, Nov 10, 13:11:55
  - That was old data and...we don't spend as much on health. (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Nov 10, 13:20:45
    - not particuarly old data - your other point is not true either (NCFC) - phrankin, Nov 10, 13:25:26
      - That data is 11 years old (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Nov 10, 13:27:25
        
        New data - same conclusion (NCFC) - phrankin, Nov 10, 13:28:15
        
        No, that data is 4 years old (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Nov 10, 13:50:59
        
        ok more recent still (NCFC) - phrankin, Nov 10, 14:01:55
        
        Old data (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Nov 10, 14:35:27
        
        the most recent available (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Nov 10, 14:45:33
        
        Try this one (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Nov 10, 13:30:23
        
        Another (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Nov 10, 13:31:49
        
        You are not improving our Cancer survival rates (NCFC) - phrankin, Nov 10, 13:35:15
        
        This is some good old Roff debating goon on ere ^^vv (NCFC) - King, Nov 10, 13:37:38
        
        Also let me add, I'm not saying the NHS is shit (NCFC) - phrankin, Nov 10, 13:36:24
        
        That's quite good then isn't it? Or have I missed the point? (n/m) (NCFC) - tudders, Nov 10, 13:41:20
        
        The point was, The government was criticizing the NHS on Cancer (NCFC) - phrankin, Nov 10, 13:59:29

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