but also crowds fell away dramatically in the 80s

You cannot underestimate the effect of hooliganism and the demonisation of football and all supporters under Thatcher.

I think the absolute nadir was around 1987? Villa getting 13,000 crowds I recall, no-one apart from Liverpool and Man Utd ever getting much over 35,000.

Football grounds were toilets, the experience was (for families, women) utterly dreadful.

IThe Taylor Report in 89, followed by the creation of the Premier League, utterly transformed everything.

Posted By: norway on October 17th 2011 at 20:01:14

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Stan bigging our support up on (NCFC) - loz, Oct 17, 19:18:38
- He's saying our support has held in the mid-twenty-thousands for 50 years. Is that (NCFC) - Sugbad The Bad, Oct 17, 19:32:37
  - 1997 i believe - Norwich 0 Charlton 4 (NCFC) - ingi, Oct 17, 19:57:00
    - v Brum. 3-3 Bellers scored twice. 9000ish attendance. (NCFC) - Pixelman, Oct 17, 20:08:48
      - gosh that's low! what season was that? (NCFC) - ingi, Oct 17, 20:10:01
        
        soz, got wrong person re: email. (n/m) (NCFC) - ingi, Oct 17, 20:24:54
    - 1997/98 season we averaged 14.445 (NCFC) - ingi, Oct 17, 20:03:24
  - When I first started going regularly in the mid 80s (NCFC) - norway, Oct 17, 19:49:10
    - was it mostly older people in those days? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 17, 19:51:31
      - not as I recall: there was a mix, tho fewer wimmin and kids (NCFC) - Sugbad The Bad, Oct 17, 19:55:11
        
        but also crowds fell away dramatically in the 80s (NCFC) - norway, Oct 17, 20:01:14
    - affordable family football and kids for a quid schemes (NCFC) - Brandonio, Oct 17, 19:51:29
      - and nigel worthington (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 17, 19:52:44
  - of course it's wrong (NCFC) - Charles21, Oct 17, 19:35:19
  - he said we're consistent which is obviously wrong (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 17, 19:33:47
  - your not wrong (n/m) (NCFC) - Pixelman, Oct 17, 19:33:28
- I like Stan Collymore on TalkSPORT (NCFC) - Yellalee, Oct 17, 19:27:04
  - He beats up women. (n/m) (NCFC) - jafski, Oct 17, 19:36:54
    - I know I know... (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Oct 17, 19:39:31
  - Stan slated him for saying there's (NCFC) - loz, Oct 17, 19:28:56
  - He came across very well the one time I listened to it ... (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 17, 19:28:32
    - He's started saying Yard Box instead of yarbox. I'd like to think that's because you had (NCFC) - Sugbad The Bad, Oct 17, 19:31:21
    - If you can get over him talking over people, which to be honest is a prerequisite for (NCFC) - Yellalee, Oct 17, 19:30:55
      - i'm a huge fan of alan shearer (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 17, 19:33:01
        
        he was talking about us and it was clear he was bored to death (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Oct 17, 19:35:39
        
        how could you tell? he is so dull he makes Lawrenson look interesting (n/m) (NCFC) - Pixelman, Oct 17, 19:39:24
        
        nope i reckon he loves us (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 17, 19:36:51
        
        I don't want Shearer to love us (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 17, 19:40:50
        
        people can't hate us forever (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 17, 19:42:50
        
        course, they all love us really, but hate themselves for it (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 17, 19:46:35

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