ah, i see you're changing your argument as to what is defined as 'Tory' to suit your needs

"breaking up nhs and getting more private money into it, freeing more schools to go independent or private, then hard to argue blair was a tory." your original words - both of which Blair started/carried on.

The fact that he didn't manage to go as far as the Tories are now proposing to do means not a jot - unless we're going to take your reasoning to it's logical conclusion - Thatcher didn't go as far as Blair in actually hading over the running of a hospital to the private sector therefore she is less 'Tory' than Blair(/Brown) ever was...

Posted By: Ralf Scrampton on March 4th 2011 at 12:26:37

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just for ralf scrampton (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 12:08:53
- you do realise that academy schools were implemented at failing schools to (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 12:56:19
  - "But then that should surprise us that a labour government was using underhand tactics to (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 13:02:10
    - be aware hes talking utter nonsense tho (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 13:10:34
      - it does seem a little 'wrong end of a stick' of him doesn't it? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 13:21:42
        
        yup (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 13:29:53
        
        This article would seem to suggest the figures aren't hidden (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, Mar 4, 13:36:34
    - haha true indeed (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 13:03:55
  - what on earth are you talking about (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 13:01:42
    - exam stats are not what schools are graded on. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 13:04:44
      - no, cos value added is included, but its all the media ever focused on (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 13:08:06
        
        try doing a bit of research into what the teaching unions think (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 13:13:48
        
        i know theres lots of reasons people dont like academies (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 13:20:38
        
        the more i read it the weird it gets. what did you mean by (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 13:22:15
    - (and also (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 13:04:40
    - actually its straight from the headmasters mouth of the school my wife is a teacher at (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 13:03:29
- ah, i see you're changing your argument as to what is defined as 'Tory' to suit your needs (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 12:26:37
  - " Thatcher didn't go as far as Blair in actually hading over the running of a hospital to (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 12:33:48
    - but surely a good Labour government (with a massive majority and in power for 13 years) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 12:41:47
      - I'm sure they could if they'd wanted to, clearly they didn't which (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 12:45:36

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