just for ralf scrampton

talking about blair and academy schools, and saying he's therefore more tory than clegg, is very misleading. should think you know that really, but in case not.

whether you agree with them or not, labour academies were designed to deal with failing schools. was never planned as a wholescale reorganisation of the state education system.

thats what gove has announced he is trying to do. is a completely different experiment, all about removing the 'dead hand of the state' from the running of our school system.

you seem well informed, so i guess you know that really. on both education and health. you shouldn't pretend that what the tories and clegg are doing is the same as what happened under the last govermment, because it isnt. (and most of that has nothing to do with fiscal deficits. neither free schools or the reorganisation of the nhs are designed to save money.)

Posted By: jampersands on March 4th 2011 at 12:08:53

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just for ralf scrampton (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 12:08:53
- you do realise that academy schools were implemented at failing schools to (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 12:56:19
  - "But then that should surprise us that a labour government was using underhand tactics to (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 13:02:10
    - be aware hes talking utter nonsense tho (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 13:10:34
      - it does seem a little 'wrong end of a stick' of him doesn't it? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 13:21:42
        
        yup (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 13:29:53
        
        This article would seem to suggest the figures aren't hidden (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, Mar 4, 13:36:34
    - haha true indeed (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 13:03:55
  - what on earth are you talking about (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 13:01:42
    - exam stats are not what schools are graded on. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 13:04:44
      - no, cos value added is included, but its all the media ever focused on (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 13:08:06
        
        try doing a bit of research into what the teaching unions think (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 13:13:48
        
        i know theres lots of reasons people dont like academies (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 13:20:38
        
        the more i read it the weird it gets. what did you mean by (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 13:22:15
    - (and also (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 13:04:40
    - actually its straight from the headmasters mouth of the school my wife is a teacher at (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 13:03:29
- ah, i see you're changing your argument as to what is defined as 'Tory' to suit your needs (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 12:26:37
  - " Thatcher didn't go as far as Blair in actually hading over the running of a hospital to (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 12:33:48
    - but surely a good Labour government (with a massive majority and in power for 13 years) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 12:41:47
      - I'm sure they could if they'd wanted to, clearly they didn't which (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 12:45:36

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