really? depends what you think tory policies, are really

if you think tories are at heart all about assertiveness and aggression abroad, then yes, blair was a tory.

if you think on the other hand tories really care about domestic policies - cutting welfare payments, breaking up nhs and getting more private money into it, freeing more schools to go independent or private, then hard to argue blair was a tory. but pretty clear clegg is.

Posted By: jampersands on March 4th 2011 at 08:22:31

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Congrats to Barnsley... (General Chat) - woody, Mar 4, 01:51:12
- "Lib Dems don't win Labour fairly-safe seat" isn't so much of a headline though is it? (General Chat) - Arganth, Mar 4, 08:48:31
- Clegg will cross to the Tories before the next election and ... (General Chat) - colincanary, Mar 4, 03:55:28
  - no way (n/m) (General Chat) - revsimon, Mar 5, 10:16:08
  - will he fuck (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 08:00:11
    - There's some truth to the racist comment... (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Mar 4, 09:28:55
      - that's a fair analysis, as is Robert Rosario's below (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 10:33:58
    - Are UKIP overtly racist? I don't really know, that's why I'm asking - ie (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 08:57:59
      - i know some UKIP members, they're not racist like people off of on here troll about (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 09:02:48
        
        Didn't the BNP vote drop by a third? (General Chat) - Arganth, Mar 4, 09:22:40
        
        sill did better than the libs (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 09:39:48
        
        Barnsley Lib Dems: less popular than a certified pack of cunts. (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Mar 4, 09:43:03
        
        Probably moved over to UKIP. It's politically disenfranchised people frantically looking (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 09:25:52
        
        Ah. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 09:05:57
        
        I tend to think of UKIP as silly Little Englanders (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Mar 4, 09:05:46
        
        They are but I don't think you can call all the people who vote for them extreme racists. (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 09:08:29
        
        know what your getting at, but UKIP is more of a businessman's social club in my eyes (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 09:16:00
        
        Yeah, I was refering to BNP voters. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 09:17:28
    - ^^ This ^^ (General Chat) - Arganth, Mar 4, 08:49:35
    - agree entirely (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 08:33:29
    - ^^^This is correct (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Mar 4, 08:27:49
    - he is basically a tory though (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 08:17:05
      - and yet he's still less of a Tory than Tony Blair and New Labour ever was (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 08:20:07
        
        really? depends what you think tory policies, are really (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 08:22:31
        
        Tony Blair's academies: (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 10:00:32
        
        Thing is though, they aren't Labour supporters - there hasn't been a Labour Party to (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 10:15:22
        
        Was 'New Tory' Thatcher?.. (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Mar 4, 10:17:10
        
        Blair (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 10:20:50
        
        Oh (n/m) (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Mar 4, 10:27:19
        
        oh you mean cutting costs so that we dont go bankrupt? yup really pissed off with clegg (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 08:35:51
        
        see above. reorgansation of nhs and education system arent anything to do with fiscal (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 12:10:22
        
        so it's ideology when you disagree with it and what? when you agree with it? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 12:36:07
        
        I love the way Labour MPs bleat on about the current administration... (General Chat) - Brom, Mar 4, 08:25:54
        
        It isn't though. It's the fault of every government since about 1960 (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 09:00:26
        
        yea and they fucked the usa economy (General Chat) - Firstnews, Mar 4, 08:57:13
        
        And Cameron and his crew didn't raise a finger of objection to any of their spending plans (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 09:09:49
        
        because (General Chat) - Firstnews, Mar 4, 09:15:44
        
        Exactly. I recall reading some where that government spending went up under Thatcher. (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 09:19:49
        
        it is true (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 10:03:48
        
        She also claimed to have drastically reduced the size of government when, in fact, (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 10:10:11
        
        entut just - and yes UKIP have a very strong racist element sadly my work's firewall is (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 10:18:52
        
        The traditional working classes, those that would have been staunch (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 10:25:29
        
        Not knowing a thing about any of those places why would you say Preston escapes it? (n/m) (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Mar 4, 10:27:00
        
        Preston's a little bit wealthier than Blackburn or Burnley. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Mar 4, 10:41:35
        
        It also has a very large University so lots of people coming in (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 11:13:21
        
        I don't know. It probably has a lower density of immigation, (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 10:39:33
        
        Yeah, the American goverment forced Labour to borrow ?1 for every ?4 spent... (General Chat) - Brom, Mar 4, 09:01:26
        
        Yep yank bastards (General Chat) - Firstnews, Mar 4, 09:12:38
    - lib dems (General Chat) - robert_rosario, Mar 4, 08:10:09

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