lib dems

What will happen is that the LDs will continue to be routed all the way through to the 2015 general election where significant numbers vote Labour and the party returns to a rump. They will be particularly massacred in the north where they are currently strong but will never be forgiven for the "cuts" which will have the biggest effect there. The situation will be almost identical to 1919 - the end of the last LibCon coalition - but that time they split into 3 not just 2 parties! Last night in Barnsley and this May's local elections will set the tone but there is no-one in a strong position to lead a challenge against Clegg. Only possibly Cable differs ideologically and he is too embedded in the cabinet hierachy.

Posted By: robert_rosario on March 4th 2011 at 08:10:09

Message Thread

Congrats to Barnsley... (General Chat) - woody, Mar 4, 01:51:12
- "Lib Dems don't win Labour fairly-safe seat" isn't so much of a headline though is it? (General Chat) - Arganth, Mar 4, 08:48:31
- Clegg will cross to the Tories before the next election and ... (General Chat) - colincanary, Mar 4, 03:55:28
  - no way (n/m) (General Chat) - revsimon, Mar 5, 10:16:08
  - will he fuck (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 08:00:11
    - There's some truth to the racist comment... (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Mar 4, 09:28:55
      - that's a fair analysis, as is Robert Rosario's below (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 10:33:58
    - Are UKIP overtly racist? I don't really know, that's why I'm asking - ie (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 08:57:59
      - i know some UKIP members, they're not racist like people off of on here troll about (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 09:02:48
        
        Didn't the BNP vote drop by a third? (General Chat) - Arganth, Mar 4, 09:22:40
        
        sill did better than the libs (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 09:39:48
        
        Barnsley Lib Dems: less popular than a certified pack of cunts. (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Mar 4, 09:43:03
        
        Probably moved over to UKIP. It's politically disenfranchised people frantically looking (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 09:25:52
        
        Ah. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 09:05:57
        
        I tend to think of UKIP as silly Little Englanders (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Mar 4, 09:05:46
        
        They are but I don't think you can call all the people who vote for them extreme racists. (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 09:08:29
        
        know what your getting at, but UKIP is more of a businessman's social club in my eyes (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 09:16:00
        
        Yeah, I was refering to BNP voters. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 09:17:28
    - ^^ This ^^ (General Chat) - Arganth, Mar 4, 08:49:35
    - agree entirely (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 08:33:29
    - ^^^This is correct (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Mar 4, 08:27:49
    - he is basically a tory though (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 08:17:05
      - and yet he's still less of a Tory than Tony Blair and New Labour ever was (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 08:20:07
        
        really? depends what you think tory policies, are really (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 08:22:31
        
        Tony Blair's academies: (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 10:00:32
        
        Thing is though, they aren't Labour supporters - there hasn't been a Labour Party to (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 10:15:22
        
        Was 'New Tory' Thatcher?.. (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Mar 4, 10:17:10
        
        Blair (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 10:20:50
        
        Oh (n/m) (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Mar 4, 10:27:19
        
        oh you mean cutting costs so that we dont go bankrupt? yup really pissed off with clegg (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 4, 08:35:51
        
        see above. reorgansation of nhs and education system arent anything to do with fiscal (General Chat) - jampersands, Mar 4, 12:10:22
        
        so it's ideology when you disagree with it and what? when you agree with it? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 12:36:07
        
        I love the way Labour MPs bleat on about the current administration... (General Chat) - Brom, Mar 4, 08:25:54
        
        It isn't though. It's the fault of every government since about 1960 (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 09:00:26
        
        yea and they fucked the usa economy (General Chat) - Firstnews, Mar 4, 08:57:13
        
        And Cameron and his crew didn't raise a finger of objection to any of their spending plans (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 09:09:49
        
        because (General Chat) - Firstnews, Mar 4, 09:15:44
        
        Exactly. I recall reading some where that government spending went up under Thatcher. (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 09:19:49
        
        it is true (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 10:03:48
        
        She also claimed to have drastically reduced the size of government when, in fact, (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 10:10:11
        
        entut just - and yes UKIP have a very strong racist element sadly my work's firewall is (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 4, 10:18:52
        
        The traditional working classes, those that would have been staunch (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 10:25:29
        
        Not knowing a thing about any of those places why would you say Preston escapes it? (n/m) (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Mar 4, 10:27:00
        
        Preston's a little bit wealthier than Blackburn or Burnley. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Mar 4, 10:41:35
        
        It also has a very large University so lots of people coming in (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 11:13:21
        
        I don't know. It probably has a lower density of immigation, (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 4, 10:39:33
        
        Yeah, the American goverment forced Labour to borrow ?1 for every ?4 spent... (General Chat) - Brom, Mar 4, 09:01:26
        
        Yep yank bastards (General Chat) - Firstnews, Mar 4, 09:12:38
    - lib dems (General Chat) - robert_rosario, Mar 4, 08:10:09

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