The subject isn't about the details, it's about the facts

Roeder didn't relegate Norwich, he wasn't given the opportunity to prove he was going to, or whether he was going to keep us up

You can't state a manager relegated a club, when he didn't have the full opportunity to prove otherwise

And sacking him when he was not in the bottom 3, does not make a case to say that he relegated us

That's, a fact

Posted By: pants on November 9th 2010 at 14:47:15

Message Thread

I see Mr Roeder has found his voice. Has he just come out of his sulk? (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 9, 13:21:31
- THis is half the trouble with explaining yourself on here (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 13:57:39
  - THat should be for doy, sorry cb41 (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 14:00:05
  - if you don't like explaining yourself (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 13:59:14
  - Try not to take it to heart mate (General Chat) - HoofinHughes, Nov 9, 13:59:03
    - I really wasn't deliberately being an arse though (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 14:08:40
      - I know you weren't (General Chat) - HoofinHughes, Nov 9, 14:15:22
      - I've explained myself to you (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 14:09:35
        
        Would it not have been simpler (General Chat) - The Judge, Nov 9, 14:14:03
        
        the same with me yesterday (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 14:20:04
        
        .... (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 14:20:42
        
        already replied to that (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 14:23:16
        
        You explained yourself by saying I had been condescending (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 14:11:19
        
        Yes, I've explained that bit too (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 14:14:51
        
        Agreed (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 14:23:13
- he was on Soccer AM (google it - though you won't like it) a little while back (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 9, 13:26:13
  - Is that tartie bint still on Soccer AM? I used to watch that when I had Sky Sports. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 9, 13:29:35
    - no, he left a couple of years ago (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 9, 13:32:26
      - She must be about 50 now (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 9, 13:33:30
        
        too young for you then! (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Nov 9, 13:35:25
        
        I always though she had a whiff of the Romany (n/m) (General Chat) - The Judge, Nov 9, 13:35:18
- Dreadful, unpopular leader with shit communications skills makes first statement in ages (General Chat) - The Judge, Nov 9, 13:25:04
  - he made one in the Sunday papers too (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 9, 13:27:19
    - he'll be applying for jobs again soon imo (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 13:28:47
      - ... (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 13:29:53
        
        LOL! I love youtube, me (n/m) (General Chat) - HoofinHughes, Nov 9, 13:46:49
        
        pmsl (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 13:30:43
        
        because duke's only looked at it 49,999 times (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 9, 13:33:05
  - I've never called myself a leader. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 9, 13:26:34
  - really? (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 9, 13:26:09
- He's always presented as one of football's nice guys (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 13:22:35
  - This is by the same media who seem to think people want to hear from Robbie Savage (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Nov 9, 13:26:18
    - I like Steve Claridge - he once chinned John Beck (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 9, 13:28:20
  - got ill? (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 13:23:38
    - Good point (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 13:25:02
  - Iwan said so too (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 13:23:35
    - Don't think Iwan played under him (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 13:24:48
      - Your right (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 13:25:08
        
        My right what ? (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Nov 9, 13:26:00
        
        you and Daniel Day Lewis ought to get together (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 9, 13:28:44
        
        Oh (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 13:25:25
        
        Do you? (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 13:27:36
        
        I don't know (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 13:29:02
        
        they were both at Watford together as players (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 9, 13:36:07
        
        Ah, well that's a totally different relationship then (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 13:36:55
        
        cooooo eeeeee!!! (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 13:37:45
        
        I meant managed (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 13:39:50
        
        You didn't totally though, did you? (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 13:43:05
        
        I meant that the media and programmes (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 13:44:49
        
        MOST do. (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Nov 9, 13:39:36
        
        Most do what? (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 13:40:12
        
        "most players he's worked with think he's a cunt." (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Nov 9, 13:48:02
        
        fish have a memory (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 13:51:06
        
        ^^^ Truth. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Nov 9, 14:03:55
        
        I guess you'll just have to look it up then (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 13:30:24
        
        I don't know what I'd be looking up (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 13:31:46
        
        "Roberts remembers Roeder as "an absolute gentleman... I can't speak highly enough of him. (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 13:34:31
        
        was that before the tumour? (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 13:36:10
        
        Ouch! (n/m) (General Chat) - HoofinHughes, Nov 9, 13:41:56
        
        wasn't a dig (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 13:46:11
        
        So what you are trying to say is, you don't think it hurt at all? (General Chat) - HoofinHughes, Nov 9, 13:48:40
        
        no i'm saying it may have altered his mind (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 13:52:35
        
        Well you've always suggested that in the past he relegated teams (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 13:55:16
        
        he relegated us tbf (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 13:58:15
        
        He didn't (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 14:01:43
        
        we'll agree to disagree then (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 14:03:26
        
        It's about facts, not opinions (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 14:04:23
        
        i think he did tbf (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 14:09:26
        
        You see, he was asked to leave his job, and we weren't in the relegation zone (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 14:11:37
        
        we will agree to disagree (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 14:16:19
        
        Interesting isn't it? (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 14:18:29
        
        you've lost me again (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 14:22:47
        
        You are refusing to accept a fact, and claiming they are opinions (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 14:29:22
        
        it's not that i can't handle it (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 14:34:34
        
        Well it's wrong (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 14:36:40
        
        What should happen here: (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 14:40:27
        
        Give it a try (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 14:44:43
        
        The subject isn't about the details, it's about the facts (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 14:47:15
        
        are you rafa benitez? (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 14:49:17
        
        nigh on impossible i'd say (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 14:42:18
        
        we'll agree to disagree i think (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 14:39:33
        
        Not really, you're just incorrect (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 14:44:20
        
        in your opinion (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 14:47:32
        
        At least the last few weeks has been worth it for you. All those quips (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 14:54:11
        
        care to explain what quips these were? (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 14:58:16
        
        Because it ends like today (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 15:54:14
        
        no it started because you accused me of stuff (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 16:01:42
        
        In your opinion (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 16:06:45
        
        not the first time either is it? (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 16:10:43
        
        You'd posted over 50 messages by 12 lunchtime today (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 16:12:10
        
        i could not give a fuck lol (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 16:21:48
        
        clearly (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 17:10:20
        
        if what was true? (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 17:38:57
        
        Do you think it hurt? (n/m) (General Chat) - HoofinHughes, Nov 9, 13:54:08
        
        dunno tbh (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 13:55:05
        
        Probably did tbh (General Chat) - HoofinHughes, Nov 9, 13:56:23
        
        Wikipedia (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 13:36:09
        
        10 points (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 13:38:38
        
        Why are you being such a twat today pants? (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 13:40:20
        
        To be quite honest, and genuinely honest here (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 13:44:57
        
        Where did I condescend you? (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 13:46:11
        
        You played down what I said (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 13:53:20
        
        I have no fucking idea what you're on about (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 13:55:23
        
        i think this is where OG steps in (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 14:01:08
        
        I'm off to the top of the board (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 9, 14:06:48
        
        see you there (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 14:11:04
        
        Well it's good to see you're proving the forum wrong (General Chat) - pants, Nov 9, 14:03:26
        
        not trying to kick off (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 14:08:13
        
        This is what I meant, SCC (General Chat) - HoofinHughes, Nov 9, 14:07:46
        
        so he trolled me epically? (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 14:10:49
        
        i tried that and you took the 5th (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 13:54:14
        
        apparently i've been making quips every day too (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 13:47:58
        
        did the same to me yesterday dukey (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 9, 13:29:56

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