to my mind, that happened as it all began to unravel

he didn't really rate Cole - but picked him as the pressure to do so mounted when it was all going pear-shaped before the tournament.

But it meant he was lumbered with a player he didn't really want to play at the tournament itself.

I suspect that had Capello folllowed through on his selections in the qualifiers, and stuck with Walcott for the squad, then Walcott might actually have found himself starting when it was all going wrong. Whereas Cole was never going to get himself in the starting XI.

Posted By: Tricky Hawes on June 28th 2010 at 16:13:53

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so out of our returning england failures.... (Other Football) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jun 28, 15:42:53
- obviously Terry first. (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 28, 15:51:36
  - Leader. Legend. Loser. Liability. (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 28, 15:52:46
    - has been a liability for a while, too (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 28, 15:54:40
      - Bet he won't (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 28, 15:57:31
- Add (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 28, 15:44:06
  - And (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 28, 15:47:40
    - Why Joe Cole? (n/m) (Other Football) - BINMEN8R, Jun 28, 15:50:02
      - Cos I'm feeling grumpy and bitter (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 28, 15:51:54
        
        I would also take some message from both his club and country manager wanting shot of him. (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 28, 15:53:16
        
        Seems he may be trouble but Capello is paid obscene amounts to (Other Football) - BINMEN8R, Jun 28, 15:55:49
        
        Can't agree with that - why not take, instead, the message that Arsene Wenger wants him? (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 28, 15:55:42
        
        Ancelotti and Capello both see / saw him in training, and didn't want to play him (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 28, 15:59:16
        
        But without doubt he's technically good and here lies the problem with English (Other Football) - BINMEN8R, Jun 28, 16:04:07
        
        like Ancelotti and Capello, you mean? (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 28, 16:05:17
        
        He's been injiured for fair bit of season and I thought Ancelotti offered him a contract (Other Football) - BINMEN8R, Jun 28, 16:08:34
        
        So just to be clear - the official England fans' line is that we've discovered (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 28, 16:10:23
        
        Fair point...but Joe Cole should be one of the first names on team sheet. (n/m) (Other Football) - BINMEN8R, Jun 28, 16:20:12
        
        agree that he had a good World Cup (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 28, 16:21:47
        
        Come on you cannot genuinely say that Joe Cole isn't a good player? (Other Football) - BINMEN8R, Jun 28, 16:25:40
        
        Capello saw Heskey in training and wanted him to play. (Other Football) - Johnny Comecardiff, Jun 28, 16:01:19
        
        Right. I'm not quite sure what argument we're having here, really. (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 28, 16:02:59
        
        though Capello still had faith enough in him to include him in his 23 (n/m) (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 28, 16:10:15
        
        Though if he was playing in traynun like he did when he came on against Chermany (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 28, 16:14:21
        
        to my mind, that happened as it all began to unravel (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 28, 16:13:53
        
        But he loved Cole pre cruciate (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 28, 16:15:14
        
        If that's true, then suggests even more strongly that Cole has gone backwards, (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 28, 16:20:32
        
        Capello started the B team expecting them to shag Andorra, keeping the A team fresh (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 28, 16:25:01
        
        So why do you think Capello didn't start him in any games at the tournament (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 28, 16:27:33
        
        I think we're going in circles now (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 28, 16:33:32
        
        so this means we agree, doesn't it? (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 28, 16:36:55
        
        But Wenger wants him as does 'Arry. (n/m) (Other Football) - BINMEN8R, Jun 28, 16:22:34
        
        I think we're going in circles now. (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 28, 16:24:06
    - And (Other Football) - Johnny Comecardiff, Jun 28, 15:48:50
      - And (Other Football) - Johnny Comecardiff, Jun 28, 15:49:53

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