it's all about the liasons and silent letters
in the same way that we say 'a nappl' (linking the words and dropping the end of the word 'apple') for 'an apple', the french say 'le chie nest dangereu' for 'le chien est dangereux'
There are lots of letter combinations that aren't pronounced in french - you have to learn them. The final 't', the final 's', the final 'ent'. A final 'n' or 'm' is normally not pronounced either, but hte previous sound is nasalised. Except when it's a liasion (like in 'chien est').
a double 'l' is a 'y', a 'oi' is a 'wa', the 'r' is impossible to pronounce unles you've practised for about four years. The 'ou' is different to the 'u' and makes a big difference (beaucoup, beau cul) - the first is like an exagerrated 'oo' sound, the second is halfway between 'oo' and 'ee';
Its all down to practise and familiarisation. try regularly listening to the french radio on MW, not to understand it but just to sensibiise yourself with the vowes and cadences of the language.
Posted By: Dave in France on July 8th 2009 at 18:32:10
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- And seeing as you're in, Dave, a Q to you and Aggs and Shoddy etc (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 18:19:23
- Hello Suggs (General Chat) - shoddy, Jul 8, 20:39:36
- it's all about the liasons and silent letters (General Chat) - Dave in France, Jul 8, 18:32:10
- You pronounce the 'CaReFuL' consonants... (General Chat) - Arganth, Jul 8, 18:42:12
- Michel is one of the methods I'm using, yes (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 18:44:06
- oh and elision (General Chat) - Dave in France, Jul 8, 18:34:56
- see, I know *about* this (as opposed to knowing it properly) (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 18:39:59
- its a headache when you have to listen to it 24/7 but you dont get it sometimes (General Chat) - shoddy, Jul 8, 20:50:34
- oh yeah, and I can read ok, but the problem is in my mind I apply a sound to that french (General Chat) - shoddy, Jul 8, 20:56:25
- Is that you, Rob? (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 21:11:14
- Nope, I'm not Rob! I wish that I could speak as well as him! (General Chat) - shoddy, Jul 8, 21:20:59
- Ah, OK, I saw your reply to someone the other day and made 5 from two 2s (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 21:25:58
- well, it's different to english or scandinavian languages for example, yes (General Chat) - Dave in France, Jul 8, 21:31:51
- Heh heh (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 21:35:01
- that sounds like a whole new thread ! (n/m) (General Chat) - shoddy, Jul 8, 21:36:26
- A new thread? More like a blog, mate. Back away from it. (n/m) (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 21:40:09
- that sounds like a whole new thread ! (n/m) (General Chat) - shoddy, Jul 8, 21:36:26
- Heh heh (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 21:35:01
- c'est n'importe quoi ! (General Chat) - shoddy, Jul 8, 21:31:46
- well, it's different to english or scandinavian languages for example, yes (General Chat) - Dave in France, Jul 8, 21:31:51
- Ah, OK, I saw your reply to someone the other day and made 5 from two 2s (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 21:25:58
- Nope, I'm not Rob! I wish that I could speak as well as him! (General Chat) - shoddy, Jul 8, 21:20:59
- Is that you, Rob? (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 21:11:14
- oh yeah, and I can read ok, but the problem is in my mind I apply a sound to that french (General Chat) - shoddy, Jul 8, 20:56:25
- years (General Chat) - Dave in France, Jul 8, 18:49:28
- When I have to e-mail the guy, I write in French - except (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 19:00:01
- i don't think 'tu' always leads to bumming (General Chat) - Dave in France, Jul 8, 19:08:06
- It's remembering to address the maire as vous but his wife as tu... (General Chat) - Arganth, Jul 8, 19:13:53
- You've been to Abjat then ? (n/m) (General Chat) - Arganth, Jul 8, 19:17:56
- Zut alors, that shoud go there V V (n/m) (General Chat) - Arganth, Jul 8, 19:20:04
- In France, I believe, it's possible for all five to apply at the same time (n/m) (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 19:16:24
- Oh - I'll tell you what's a major sod to remember, too (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 19:21:10
- that seems a perfectly logical expression to me (General Chat) - Dave in France, Jul 8, 19:26:07
- There's my problem. I thought 'droit' only meant 'right'. (n/m) (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 19:27:05
- the secret of learning a language... (General Chat) - Dave in France, Jul 8, 19:28:54
- oh, but that has an e on the end, dunnit (n/m) (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 19:28:05
- There's my problem. I thought 'droit' only meant 'right'. (n/m) (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 19:27:05
- that seems a perfectly logical expression to me (General Chat) - Dave in France, Jul 8, 19:26:07
- Oh - I'll tell you what's a major sod to remember, too (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 19:21:10
- You've been to Abjat then ? (n/m) (General Chat) - Arganth, Jul 8, 19:17:56
- It's remembering to address the maire as vous but his wife as tu... (General Chat) - Arganth, Jul 8, 19:13:53
- In speaking, most tu parts of verbs sound the same as je... (General Chat) - Arganth, Jul 8, 19:06:26
- Ah - he wrote the Merde books, I see (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 19:08:39
- Indeed. They're a little exaggerated, but I recognise a lot of what happens. (n/m) (General Chat) - Arganth, Jul 8, 19:14:50
- Ah - he wrote the Merde books, I see (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 19:08:39
- i don't think 'tu' always leads to bumming (General Chat) - Dave in France, Jul 8, 19:08:06
- When I have to e-mail the guy, I write in French - except (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 19:00:01
- its a headache when you have to listen to it 24/7 but you dont get it sometimes (General Chat) - shoddy, Jul 8, 20:50:34
- see, I know *about* this (as opposed to knowing it properly) (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 18:39:59
- You pronounce the 'CaReFuL' consonants... (General Chat) - Arganth, Jul 8, 18:42:12
- Quite often I still can't. Especially when they speak patois. (General Chat) - Arganth, Jul 8, 18:24:53
- Did I read that you're packing up and coming home? (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 18:30:46
- I am. (General Chat) - Arganth, Jul 8, 18:43:26
- In that case, well done (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 18:46:55
- I am. (General Chat) - Arganth, Jul 8, 18:43:26
- Did I read that you're packing up and coming home? (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Jul 8, 18:30:46
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