basically we took a gamble...

that Premiership reserves would be better quality than the equivalent players we could afford to spend the money on the sign permanently.

It didn't work, but it could just have easily have gone the other way (after all in Roeder's first season it was the extra quality of some of his loan signings over the crap players that Grant signed permanently that saved us).

Every time you make a decision to sign a new player or manager there is a risk involved that it won't work out - the last few years it hasn't, in 2001-4 it generally did (the Board was the same on each occasion).

If a lot of decisions go wrong in the same season and you get bad luck with injuries etc then it is a recipe for disaster and you can get relegated (like this year).
If a lot of decisions work out well all at once and you get good luck with injuries etc. then it is a recipe for success (see 2003/4).

That's football.

Posted By: mr carra on May 11th 2009 at 14:14:21

Message Thread

Anyone who says that loan players got us where we are (NCFC) - trevor hockeys beard, May 11, 13:50:27
- basically we took a gamble... (NCFC) - mr carra, May 11, 14:14:21
  - Having said that... (NCFC) - mr carra, May 11, 14:18:40
    - I think we got swept up into a loan tornado though (NCFC) - camcan, May 11, 14:29:37
      - in fact we also got had to get in loans to replace GOOD loans (e.g Lita)! (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, May 11, 14:42:19
        
        yep one good loan needed to be replaced by about six bad ones (NCFC) - camcan, May 11, 14:51:48
      - .... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 11, 14:35:14
    - ^^^^ there are two sensible posts from mr carra ^^^^ (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, May 11, 14:26:28
      - megson is a dippo (NCFC) - strap_on sally, May 11, 14:47:42
        
        sgree? ;-) (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, May 11, 14:56:34
        
        brom knew (n/m) (NCFC) - strap_on sally, May 11, 14:58:35
        
        Don't you mean Dipso? (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, May 11, 14:49:31
      - I agree with all above this ^^^^^^^ (NCFC) - megson, May 11, 14:37:09
        
        the other trouble is that (NCFC) - jayson blair, May 11, 15:06:47
        
        isn't that true for other positions as much as strikers? (NCFC) - mr carra, May 11, 15:14:05
        
        Not sure (NCFC) - jayson blair, May 11, 15:29:19
        
        You're all correct of course. Doncaster proved it. Started off slow and improved to mid-ta (NCFC) - jafski, May 11, 14:44:46
        
        It was odd because Roeder comented on the size thing last season (NCFC) - mr carra, May 11, 14:48:59
        
        He tried to get a big striker, but as usual, our board only managed Carl Cort (NCFC) - pants, May 11, 14:52:13
        
        How much did the turners departure have to do with that? (NCFC) - megson, May 11, 14:58:46
        
        i thought the board put out a statement to the effect that the transfer budget wouldn't be (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 11, 15:01:44
        
        That's what they said, they'd put in enough to cover any short-fall. (n/m) (NCFC) - jafski, May 11, 15:05:27
        
        Now i can reply to this................... I'd be surprised if we see that made up in the (NCFC) - megson, May 11, 16:17:52
        
        the board give the manager the money, the manager decides his targets and how to spend his (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 11, 14:58:35
        
        (about the loans I mean) (NCFC) - pants, May 11, 14:52:50
        
        But his failure to get a target man in was the real root cause of our relegation I feel. (NCFC) - jafski, May 11, 14:58:08
        
        As well as a entre back (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, May 11, 15:01:55
        
        We had a nice one that wanted to play for us last year (NCFC) - pants, May 11, 15:08:12
        
        Yep. He was a loan player too. It's all bonkers. (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, May 11, 15:10:45
        
        Would of also meant Eduardo would never of broken his leg n'all. (NCFC) - jafski, May 11, 15:09:45
        
        True, we were like the keystone cops at the back at times. (NCFC) - jafski, May 11, 15:04:40
        
        *centre-back (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, May 11, 15:02:18
        
        That was bizarre wasn't it. In the end the only tall player he got in was Sibi, and he wa (NCFC) - jafski, May 11, 14:52:03
        
        BSE Canary? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 11, 14:50:17
      - indeed (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, May 11, 14:30:46
- agreed (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 11, 13:52:38
- Loans should be a supplement (NCFC) - inutero, May 11, 13:52:30
  - that's basically what Hucks said (NCFC) - camcan, May 11, 13:55:44
    - And what Butterworth was likely trying to say. (n/m) (NCFC) - sheffieldcanary, May 11, 14:08:32
  - problem is we can't attract decent permanents (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 11, 13:53:52

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