Ok, let's go through this nice and calmly

You said: "You did enjoy bashing England for a 2-0 win in Andorra...You did, exactly what the press did too, lambast and belittle that hostile game concluding England are awful"

No I didn't. In fact I said absolutely NOTHING about the England performance against Andorra. Not one word. Prove me wrong, please.

You said: "I suggested England would play well against Croatia, probably better than Croatia but would come away with a point when they would deserve a win. I was wrong, but I infinitely more optiimistic than the majority"

Good for you. Did I disagree with you? Nope. Here's my view prior to the game:

User Posted Link (note the first respondant)

User Posted Link

So what on earth are you on about? What are you accusing me of? I really don't get it. Sorry.

You said: "Then I said later, that Rooney should stop being an idiot on the pitch... You replied something like 'you really are a contrived little fellow' ...If that's not a cheeky little dig I don't know what is"

This is what I actually said, pants: User Posted Link

Yep, you're right: cheeky, light-hearted, pointing out in a friendly fashion (could it really be construed any other way?) that at a time of great celebration you were grumbling about Rooney. I thought it was funny! Look at my last word on the matter: "You're always good for some nonsense old chap"

Vicious bile eh?

So let's, if you don't mind, go back to this post once more: User Posted Link

Apparently, I agreed with you about something and then had a go at you on the same subject. Nope, still none the wiser, I'm afraid.

What I am a lot clearer on though is that you have managed to manipulate a scenario to suit you, empathising with selwyn because of an argument with me that appears to be in your head.

"he enjoys pissing people off...he's having a right good laugh about it" plus a meandering tale of woe when unnamed posters apparently subjected you to a campaign of bullying. Absolutely nothing to do with me of course, but hey why clear that up eh?

Here's what you've done pants. You've seen selwyn do something similar to something you've done in the past. You've seen selwyn get some s**t for it and it's reminded you of the time it happened to you. You're all knotted up inside about it and when I have a go at selwyn... here's your chance.

Well I'm not impressed. I do not enjoy 'pissing people off' but I do enjoy challenging, debating, discussing and arguing. I like to go toe to toe with people when I think they're wrong. Not saying I'm right, just I THINK they're wrong.

They're are some utterly bumptious pricks on this board, nasty caustic little t**ts who I won't honour with a namecall - they're the bullies. They're the ones who rip in to XXL and IED etc.

I just like to disagree and I will say so plainly. I disagree with the frankly mind boggling attitude to selwyn's repugnant outburst. "Anyone who doesn't accept his apology is an idiot" etc. Oh DO f**k off! He called Luther Blissett a nig nog on a public message board. Excuse me if I don't slap on the back two days later. That's not me trying to wind selwyn up, that's me being the nonly person who piped up: "actually, that apology doesn't make it ok, sorry."

Don't give me this s**t about my attitude, my style, my approach. I debate and argue - I do not harangue or pick on people. And absolutely DO NOT accuse of me of s**t to fit with your 'you and me against the world selwyn' tale of woe. You've made stuff up here, you've gone way over the top. It absolutely stinks, pants. Stinks.

A real shame too. I thought we'd been doing alright you and me recently. Clearly I misread it.

Posted By: The Judge, Sep 15, 21:40:24