but if no one knows, then it's just easy to assume that's the case

ie my whole original point comes back. It's easy to make a conclusion about something when we know nothing about the situation (of which you can only find out later in a book or an article, and you reflect)

The club's official line is they aren't talking to him, so we'll never know at the moment

Posted By: pants, Aug 10, 15:56:48