Do folk honestly think it's about "moaning when we lose"? Jesus H

It's not about being successful or not being successful. Norwich City will never be that successful a club. It's about TRYING to be successful.

When the club goes out and appoints Neil Adams, Bryan Gunn, Glenn Roeder, Peter Grant, or Bryan Hamilton; when it leaves Nigel Worthington in a year past his sell-by date; and when it dithers, and dithers, and dithers some more over Chris Hughton, it isn't trying to be successful. It isn't being bold, it isn't being ambitious, it isn't doing its homework in any way. It's being stupid, and selling everyone short.

Every managerial appointment is a risk to some degree. Every single one. So most clubs look to reduce their odds as far as possible - and in Norwich's case, when we brought Lambert in, or even when we brought Hughton in, we actually got ruthless for a change. We started behaving like other successful clubs.

Yet it turns out that the only reason we did this was:

1. Because not coming straight back up out of League 1 = administration, and the destruction of Delia's legacy forever

2. Because staying in the Prem for another year after Lambert left was critical given the bank loans we had to pay off

Now, we're just straight back to the same old cuddly soft touch rollover and play dead Norwich. "We wanted to sack Hughton, but there was no-one available". Was Lambert available? Was Hughton available? It's laughable.

And the problem with being the same old cuddiy soft touch rollover and play dead Norwich is a win here or a win there won't change that. The club is shrinking in status week by week. Failure to go up this season - which is inevitable, frankly - will mean, in all likelihood, a decade at this level, or maybe even worse.

That's why I'm angry - because we're not trying to be successful, at a time we can least afford it. And in that case, what's the point of us? "I've been a football fan for 50 years, and I know that sometimes we win, and sometimes we lose"... we could end up in the Conference and folk would still be saying that: while continually targeting manager after manager (targeting symptoms, never the cause), yet somehow letting those who are actually responsible get away with it.

10 months ago or so on here, I suggested we'd quite likely be mid-table in the Championship by now. For this, I was "moaning, negative", you name it. Others "wanted to be back in the Championship, because we'll win most weeks!" Unbelievable. The Amnesiacs of the Barclay.

At Old Trafford, in Adams' second match, I could see the same old pathetic default Norwich were well and truly back. This was an outrageous thing to say too apparently. So was castigating our disgraceful failure to try and win the game at Chelsea; so was stating after the Fulham game last month that we were quite clearly going nowhere but downwards.

It's bloody obvious where this club is going - just as it was bloody obvious where it was going between 2005 and 2009. That's what happens when a football club has no leadership, no desire to succeed, and no clue.

Posted By: thebigfeller, Nov 26, 17:21:57