agree

too many book deals and sponsorships then actual true willingness to actually want it

That's why teams like Greece won 2004, not because they were good enough, but because they wanted it

It's the same thing Scolari drives into any team playing for him, to go one better than they are, and that's to go one better and really want it

Posted By: pants on September 10th 2008 at 19:08:39

Message Thread

re tonight's game - (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 10, 18:17:45
- I can visualise our performance already. A total shambles. (Other Football) - Snakey, Sep 10, 18:48:11
- Without any basis at all, I think England will win. (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Sep 10, 18:42:15
  - phew, someone else please (Other Football) - pants, Sep 10, 18:49:45
- I think we will lose tonight, we are a mediocre international side.... (Other Football) - The Duke of Norfolk, Sep 10, 18:38:35
- If We Lose Tonight... (Other Football) - Martin Peters, Sep 10, 18:35:28
  - Brian Woolnough was sharpening his knife on Radio 5 last night (Other Football) - KentonCanary, Sep 10, 18:43:32
    - But what do you mean by 'we are not good enough'? (Other Football) - The Judge, Sep 10, 18:59:33
      - agree (Other Football) - pants, Sep 10, 19:08:39
        
        I blame the WAGs (n/m) (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Sep 10, 19:20:55
        
        and agents (n/m) (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Sep 10, 19:21:18
        
        and the media (n/m) (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Sep 10, 19:21:37
        
        I blame you (Other Football) - pants, Sep 10, 19:33:55
        
        fair dews. (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Sep 10, 19:40:21
        
        I auditioned to be in Big Fun (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Sep 10, 19:46:32
        
        What did you do in your audition? (n/m) (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Sep 10, 19:47:46
        
        bit of dogging (Other Football) - pants, Sep 10, 19:53:12
        
        Oh well. different strokes for different folks. (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Sep 10, 19:58:12
    - If England dare turn on Capello, then it's game over forever (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Sep 10, 18:51:11
    - Stick it into who though? Capello, i would rather the media stuck it to the players. (n/m) (Other Football) - The Duke of Norfolk, Sep 10, 18:48:09
  - I think a change is due in the media. if England lose tonight then i would... (Other Football) - The Duke of Norfolk, Sep 10, 18:40:20
    - To be fair - they actually get nothing but stick these days (Other Football) - The Judge, Sep 10, 19:03:10
- I think that's my sway to thinking it'll be a draw (Other Football) - pants, Sep 10, 18:31:29
- CAPELLO OUT (Other Football) - Monty Peculiar, Sep 10, 18:21:01

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