but he tinkered with the team to fit Bertrand in didn't he?

silly roeder, anyone would he wanted him to be a better player, and a better resource than Camera (who he'd got his uses out of but wanted better)

You can't just see what he did for the greater good, it has to be game after game criticism, and then kept as long term criticisms of the man

That's why you'll turn on him again, not because you think he's learnt, but because you can't see the bigger picture unfolding, instead you want answers there and then and think you should have them

Posted By: pants on July 13th 2008 at 20:20:15

Message Thread

I'm almost convinced that Phrankin.. (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Jul 13, 19:33:02
- He also has 5000+ posts on the PinkUn board (n/m) (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Jul 13, 20:15:38
- I do wonder why I bite to be honest, he's never going to see the good in it (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:43:01
  - I can't be the only wrather to see the irony in that post, surely? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jul 13, 19:47:11
    - lol (n/m) (NCFC) - selwyn, Jul 13, 20:23:01
      - It is now irony central on here (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 20:32:23
        
        Dexter's on at 10 (n/m) (NCFC) - Holden Caulfield, Jul 13, 20:33:56
        
        Dexter (NCFC) - terrybligh, Jul 13, 20:44:09
    - They don't do self awareness in Yorkshire (n/m) (NCFC) - Holden Caulfield, Jul 13, 19:51:44
      - There you go tricks, the reples are rolling in now (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:55:34
        
        Oh come on, it was ironic (NCFC) - Holden Caulfield, Jul 13, 19:57:58
        
        I'm not playing (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:59:25
        
        Oh for heaven's sake get a grip (NCFC) - Holden Caulfield, Jul 13, 20:00:18
        
        To be fair to pants (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Jul 13, 19:59:09
        
        No, he does stick to one position (NCFC) - Holden Caulfield, Jul 13, 20:02:16
        
        That's amusing, because we've all loved delia for years, so have I (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 20:12:44
        
        So who recognises Doherty as our best defender then? (NCFC) - Mr Creosote, Jul 14, 00:01:24
        
        I defended Svensson when he was ahead of Iwan, that was going against the majority too (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 20:15:11
        
        Quite.... (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Jul 13, 20:01:06
        
        haha ta (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 20:23:54
        
        What does Marvin'd mean by the way? (NCFC) - Holden Caulfield, Jul 13, 20:31:02
        
        See you talk about victim before, I said devils advocate once the other day (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 20:37:49
        
        You were right, and I didn't rib you for it (NCFC) - Holden Caulfield, Jul 13, 20:39:19
        
        It's a Marvin Hagler reference. (n/m) (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Jul 13, 20:34:10
        
        Was he an internet bully too? (n/m) (NCFC) - Holden Caulfield, Jul 13, 20:37:48
        
        Yes (NCFC) - Holden Caulfield, Jul 13, 20:03:06
        
        Applauds and toats tricky (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 20:07:03
        
        I don't think I'd be alone in finding you difficult to debate with! (NCFC) - Holden Caulfield, Jul 13, 20:09:03
        
        They're all coming out now (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 20:13:25
        
        Yep (n/m) (NCFC) - Holden Caulfield, Jul 13, 20:15:29
        
        *winks knowingly at tricky* (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 20:16:41
        
        I actually think you're a nicer bloke than TH, by the way (n/m) (NCFC) - Holden Caulfield, Jul 13, 20:37:03
        
        I like tricky to, I'm just well aware when someones setting it up to drop me in it (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 22:02:56
    - well and truely marvin'd there (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:49:47
    - No (NCFC) - Mr Creosote, Jul 13, 19:48:51
      - I don't go looking for it (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:51:22
  - Just a very stupid and unpleasant individual. (n/m) (NCFC) - Mr Creosote, Jul 13, 19:46:46
    - I wouldn't go that far.... (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Jul 13, 19:58:29
      - Fair enough (NCFC) - Mr Creosote, Jul 13, 20:05:35
- I think Roeder is the right man for the job, but fear he won't get the backing to do it (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 19:34:03
  - someone bookmark this, for when he doesn't think this (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:39:38
    - no need to bookmark (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:54:16
      - Why does saying that he made mistakes (NCFC) - Holden Caulfield, Jul 13, 19:55:38
        
        because he's referenced previous jobs already, without a ball kicked (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:57:59
        
        who wouldnt reference his past jobs when you hire a manager? (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 20:00:05
        
        If tactics were wrong in your opinoin, or this "tinkering" you persistently (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 20:04:42
        
        his tinkering cost us points (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 20:14:17
        
        but he tinkered with the team to fit Bertrand in didn't he? (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 20:20:15
        
        not really, and he at least kept to his system (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 20:24:47
        
        I'm not talking about one example (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 21:28:14
        
        That's Numberwang! Fucking hell, good work! (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jul 13, 22:21:51
        
        Excellent! (n/m) (NCFC) - Holden Caulfield, Jul 13, 21:32:26
        
        *anyway (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 20:25:07
        
        Yes, but he'd hardly be unique in that (NCFC) - Holden Caulfield, Jul 13, 19:59:21
        
        pants didnt think he did. (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 19:56:23
        
        everyone makes mistakes, but they don't need to be called on them everytime they happen (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 20:29:07
        
        I did not hate Grant (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 20:31:51

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