one possible argument against that

the Dutch know they can beat the Italians and French. However those teams might be considered more likely to beat Spain in the quarters than Romania so the Dutch might consider it better to have either Italy or France through and hopefully play them in the semis rather than have to Spain (which is almost certainly what will happen if they let Romania go through)

Posted By: mr carra on June 16th 2008 at 13:25:21

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Imagine this scenario tomorrow evening ! (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 16, 12:52:09
- I want it to be like last time (Other Football) - BerlinCanary, Jun 16, 13:40:40
  - You haven't *really* forgotten who scored, have you? (n/m) (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 16, 13:49:33
    - No, of course not - hence the ellipsis (n/m) (Other Football) - BerlinCanary, Jun 16, 14:09:34
    - last good thing he ever did (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 16, 13:58:34
- Co-efficients don't come into it this tournament... (Other Football) - Declan, Jun 16, 13:09:39
  - yeah they do. It's qualifying record in this and last World Cup tournaments (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 16, 13:11:16
  - Someone was saying that on the telly the other day anyway... (Other Football) - Declan, Jun 16, 13:10:54
    - I don't think anyone on ITV remotely understands the offside aw (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 16, 13:17:10
    - Well they were talking shite... (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 16, 13:16:26
      - in that document ^^^ check articles 7.07 and 7.08 on page 9 (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 16, 13:19:03
        
        So it can do, no? (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, Jun 16, 13:20:32
        
        Only if you ignore 7.08 (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 16, 13:25:34
        
        Er, yeah. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, Jun 16, 13:33:06
        
        or if only 2 teams are involved and they aren't playing each other in the last game (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 16, 13:34:40
        
        That's what I meant! (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, Jun 16, 13:43:14
- What I don't get is. How can a league be decided by a penalty shoot out? (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Jun 16, 12:59:21
  - What's your preferred alternative, if teams are level on pts, GD and goals scored? (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 16, 13:01:14
    - I don't know (Other Football) - pants, Jun 16, 13:03:15
      - the penalties only come into it if it between only two teams (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 16, 13:15:22
        
        I dunno, I guess if Uefa and Fifa are so up on fair play, they should decide it (Other Football) - pants, Jun 16, 13:18:14
        
        Fair play comes after co-efficient in a 3 way tie. (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 16, 13:19:41
      - well, you only need a pen shootout if (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 16, 13:07:28
        
        If 3-way tie and co-efficients were identical, it goes to fair play and then to coin toss (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 16, 13:18:30
      - Soggy biscuit ? (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 16, 13:03:43
- Holland will throw it against Romania, surely, to ensure both France and Italy out? (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Jun 16, 12:58:47
  - one possible argument against that (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 16, 13:25:21
    - The Dutch failed to beat Romania in either of their qualifying matches! (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 16, 13:59:24
- I thought if Romania get beat by 3 goals and Italy draw 0-0 (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jun 16, 12:54:51
  - Yes, that is what it says (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 16, 12:56:40
    - Only if it's 3-0 by the way. If it is 4-1, Romania go through on goals scored (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 16, 13:03:22

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