Yeah, I remember that

And was appalled: sending furious text messages to my German best friend! If you google "1958 World Cup semi-final" though, you'll find that there was more than an element of moral justice though - what goes around comes around, even if it takes 48 years to do so!

Host nations always get away with things. Even England - as the way Spain were cheated against us in '96 showed, and arguably, Kuntz' disallowed goal in the semi too. My overriding impression of Klinsmann's Germany was very positive though: they proved that northern European sides CAN play positive, attacking football, even in hot weather. And they played like a team, while England were anything but.

Posted By: thebigfeller on June 5th 2008 at 14:21:12

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FAO Brandonio (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Jun 5, 13:58:17
- Can't remember 2006 - think I went for Argentina (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jun 5, 14:08:29
  - The Czechs should've won it in '04 though (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Jun 5, 14:17:32
    - didn't see the semis as I was at Glasto (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jun 5, 14:50:58
- i said the other day to bet on the dutch, and got rubbished on here. they are 16/1!! (n/m) (Other Football) - Tony Martin, Jun 5, 14:03:32
  - They're shite, that's why (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 5, 14:53:12
    - No they didn't. Eastwood did once in the second half (Other Football) - Small, Jun 5, 15:01:08
      - Mario Melchiot plays for them! (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 5, 15:04:09
        
        I don't think they'll do well either (Other Football) - Small, Jun 5, 15:11:17
        
        Not first choice (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 5, 15:09:01
      - thats what i saw too, glad it wasnt just me (n/m) (Other Football) - Tony Martin, Jun 5, 15:02:29
    - perhaps coz they were not playing full pace due to a large tournament around the corner (Other Football) - Tony Martin, Jun 5, 14:59:14
  - because of their group I suppose (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 5, 14:08:10
    - One note of caution about Holland (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Jun 5, 14:28:24
      - sorry, I'm being slow here, but why should Holland in particular suffer? (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 5, 14:30:37
        
        Because if the Big Three draw their games (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Jun 5, 14:35:32
        
        oh right (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 5, 14:38:33
    - I'm supporting them since the missus is 1/2 italian ;) (n/m) (Other Football) - Tony Martin, Jun 5, 14:10:41
    - I'd like to see Italy and Romania go through in that group (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jun 5, 14:09:03
- See I'm tempted to have a flutter on the Dutch as well, for those same reasons..... (n/m) (Other Football) - LincolnshireCanary, Jun 5, 14:00:19
  - I think have a chance, mainly cos Sneijder is so dangerous as a big game player (Other Football) - pants, Jun 5, 14:03:29
    - Or (Other Football) - mike_the_sphinx, Jun 5, 14:05:14
      - I can't wait for it all really. I can't predict who's gonna win, just gonna enjoy it (Other Football) - pants, Jun 5, 14:07:56
        
        Thing is, I really liked Portugal in 2000 (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Jun 5, 14:10:52
        
        True, I loathed Germany more in that tournament (Other Football) - pants, Jun 5, 14:14:55
        
        Yeah, I remember that (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Jun 5, 14:21:12
        
        Worse for me, was (Other Football) - pants, Jun 5, 14:24:34
        
        1minute 20 in (Other Football) - pants, Jun 5, 14:19:00
    - If Ribery play wells, I think France will play well (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jun 5, 14:04:37
  - It's dangerous: their group's a nightmare (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Jun 5, 14:02:33
    - Not enough in defence for me (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jun 5, 14:04:03
      - conceded the least goals of anyone in qualifying, didn't they? (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 5, 14:10:44
        
        that's true and Greece had the best record in qualifying (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jun 5, 14:14:20
        
        no. Just that maybe the Dutch defence isn't all that weak. (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 5, 14:16:05
        
        Wales cut em open a few times apparently on Sunday (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jun 5, 14:17:19
        
        Twice. It was shooting practice for the Dutch (which they didn't do very well at) (n/m) (Other Football) - Small, Jun 5, 14:35:53
      - I was thinking earlier though. When have the Dutch EVER had enough in defence? (n/m) (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Jun 5, 14:07:02
        
        I thought their defence was good in Euro 2000... (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jun 5, 14:10:49
        
        I'm sure you did! (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Jun 5, 14:13:38
        
        We've had this argument on here before, but by the end (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 5, 14:17:59
        
        always thought he made a refreshing change (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jun 5, 14:21:01
        
        ah I must get his autobiography - by far my favourite commentator (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jun 5, 14:16:50
        
        I went mental when Korea 'beat' Spain in the next round! (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Jun 5, 14:22:37
        
        haha yeh - spain had a perfectly good goal disallowed didn't they (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jun 5, 14:24:52
        
        Not just that (Other Football) - thebigfeller, Jun 5, 14:31:37

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