Serious suggestions (I do some of this stuff for a living)

* Lose a lot of the links. The ones down the right, for example, to Yahoo, AOL, Paypal etc. If people want to go to the paypal site, they'll just type paypal into the address bar, of use their favourites. It ends up just making your page look cluttered

* Find a nicer colour than dysentry brown for the menu down the left.

* Prioritise the stuff that actually matters. You want people to know about the Kitty, and read its constitution - then make the links to the constitution, and the prize draw more prominent.

* Don't be so keen to include adverts everywhere. You've got two big blocks of google adverts right in the place where the main body of the page ought to be. And then there's the Top Spots thing at the bottom on the right. I don't even know what that is, and I've been looking at it for a while. I'm certainly not going to click on it. Get rid of it, its pointless.

* lose the scrolling marquee at the bottom. Few things say "1995" or "bad design" as effectively as a scrolling marquee.

* think about what the *point* of the website is. If the point is to convince people to donate, then do a selling job on them, tell them why doing so would be a good idea.

* technical point, but get your web design company to invest a bit of time in a Cascading Style Sheet design rather than those nested tables. You would be able to make alterations to the design in a fraction of the time it will take now.

Posted By: Arizona Bay on April 11th 2008 at 11:23:31

Message Thread

Good Morning Wrathers. Just to let you all know the launch of the Kitty is very close, so (NCFC) - CarrowRoeder, Apr 11, 10:55:47
- CR - Some more reasons to not give up your day job... (NCFC) - Chelmsford Yella, Apr 11, 12:04:16
  - You sound like Sir Alan (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 11, 12:14:01
    - What, a (NCFC) - CB41, Apr 11, 12:18:09
      - Steady on - is that how I come across? (n/m) (NCFC) - Chelmsford Yella, Apr 11, 12:21:48
        
        Well... (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 11, 12:22:49
        
        Who asked you t-shirt magnate? (NCFC) - Chelmsford Yella, Apr 11, 12:25:16
        
        Oh yes. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 11, 12:25:53
      - The dawning of self-awareness is a beautiful thing (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 11, 12:20:34
- CR, I know some of the comments here are pretty frivolous, (NCFC) - Fleggster, Apr 11, 11:49:52
- Look, I'm all for people doing their bit, BUT (NCFC) - BFG, Apr 11, 11:48:14
  - what, 10 minutes in 3 months? (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 11, 12:14:34
  - BFG if you bothered to look you would see I was last on here 8th Feb (NCFC) - CarrowRoeder, Apr 11, 11:56:10
    - In that thread you said that... (NCFC) - Fleggster, Apr 11, 12:03:28
      - silence (NCFC) - Dave in France, Apr 11, 12:20:17
        
        *Ner ner ner ner ner icanthearthedifficultquestions ner ner ner ner ner* (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 11, 12:23:46
        
        did we ever establish the charitable status of the kitty? (NCFC) - Dave in France, Apr 11, 12:37:31
        
        yes (NCFC) - blindasabat, Apr 11, 13:59:38
- I think the new site is good (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 11, 11:42:12
  - Thanks Charles (n/m) (NCFC) - CarrowRoeder, Apr 11, 12:00:33
- Least I can check what's on TV (n/m) (NCFC) - harry boulders, Apr 11, 11:32:13
  - And indeed the weather. (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Apr 11, 11:35:13
    - I particularly like the number ordering under Revenue Streams :S (n/m) (NCFC) - Fleggster, Apr 11, 11:37:20
      - Lol. Is that our formation for Sunday? (n/m) (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Apr 11, 11:39:26
- Good luck with it. I hope it does exceed our low expectations on here. (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 11, 11:00:03
  - Must agree bad design n/m (n/m) (NCFC) - Delias Toyboy, Apr 11, 11:32:09
  - Why does it make your eyes bleed? (n/m) (NCFC) - CarrowRoeder, Apr 11, 11:01:09
    - Because it is very poorly designed i'm afraid. It's just not nice to look at. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 11, 11:03:11
      - Is that the new version thats online now? Or the first beta site? (n/m) (NCFC) - CarrowRoeder, Apr 11, 11:05:46
        
        The one I see when I type in the address today. It IS a bit better than the beta version (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 11, 11:09:13
        
        And another thing... spelling and grammar (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 11, 11:13:42
        
        The spelling etc. is being dealt with, as in being proof read, this is still a beta site (n/m) (NCFC) - CarrowRoeder, Apr 11, 11:24:31
        
        I wouldn't give it a beta, I think it's a Delta minus (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 11, 11:29:39
        
        as said earlier, the constitution on there is wrong, so ignore it (n/m) (NCFC) - CarrowRoeder, Apr 11, 11:32:32
        
        OK, sooooooooo *draws deep breath and takes heart pill* (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 11, 11:49:59
        
        *Ner ner ner ner ner icanthearthedifficultquestions ner ner ner ner ner* (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 11, 12:24:02
        
        It's all gone quiet over there, and it's all gone quiet over there (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Apr 11, 12:12:05
        
        Experiencing a strong sense of deja vu (NCFC) - camcan, Apr 11, 11:54:34
        
        Don't think you're going to get any answers, OG (NCFC) - Fleggster, Apr 11, 11:53:36
        
        Why did you publish the site before fully checking it? (n/m) (NCFC) - Brom, Apr 11, 11:26:13
        
        It stil is ongoing at not the finished article, but looking at other NCFC sites I thought (NCFC) - CarrowRoeder, Apr 11, 11:12:40
        
        Serious suggestions (I do some of this stuff for a living) (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Apr 11, 11:23:31
        
        Thanks A.B. thats the input I need, I will pass your views on to the web people (n/m) (NCFC) - CarrowRoeder, Apr 11, 11:29:58
        
        Do so...... (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Apr 11, 11:34:08
        
        My thoughts exactly - if these are professional developers, they can't be (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 11, 11:36:44
        
        Also, you get what you pay for. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Apr 11, 11:40:00
        
        He was still done up like a kipper. (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Apr 11, 11:44:39
        
        here is teh creators website - strikingly similar in its design.... (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 11, 11:41:21
        
        One of their links on the now famous left-hand link bar is (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 11, 11:47:55
        
        you can barely read the stuff on the left menu bar (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 11, 11:50:47
        
        You're more than welcome. If a job's worth doing it's worth doing well. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Apr 11, 11:33:49
        
        I know shit about web design but you really, really, REALLY need some legal input, dude (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 11, 11:22:58
        
        The constitution was a first draft, the final one is with the solicitor at the mo. (n/m) (NCFC) - CarrowRoeder, Apr 11, 11:27:56
        
        "the launch of the Kitty is very close" (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 11, 11:32:05
        
        "the launch of the Kitty is very close" (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 11, 11:32:04
        
        They have been thought through, and as I said are with the solicitor, you are viewing 2 (NCFC) - CarrowRoeder, Apr 11, 11:34:26
        
        Again (assuming your latest draft covers all of OG's concerns), why (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 11, 11:39:54
        
        if something was wanted to keep the interest up (NCFC) - camcan, Apr 11, 11:43:35
        
        Like the sound of Ronald Orifice. (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Apr 11, 11:45:47
        
        obviously (NCFC) - camcan, Apr 11, 11:46:57
        
        Winner! (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 11, 11:48:15
        
        Why put something that us unchecked onthe internet? (n/m) (NCFC) - Brom, Apr 11, 11:29:08
        
        *is* (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 11, 11:30:45
        
        Beta testing, so I am told (n/m) (NCFC) - CarrowRoeder, Apr 11, 11:30:38
        
        Ha ha...... (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Apr 11, 11:36:19
        
        *on the (n/m) (NCFC) - Brom, Apr 11, 11:29:28
        
        ROLF (n/m) (NCFC) - malkybarkid, Apr 11, 11:30:04
        
        Indeedydoodypatoody (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 11, 11:32:37
        
        you have been missed! (n/m) (NCFC) - shoddy, Apr 11, 11:24:05
        
        Not sure CR would agree with you there (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 11, 11:27:40
        
        Other things... (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 11, 11:20:30
        
        i'd say it looks a bit 'busy'... (NCFC) - blindasabat, Apr 11, 11:17:06
        
        Yep - and I dont look at that website either, for exactly the same reasons (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 11, 11:15:51
        
        * and (n/m) (NCFC) - CarrowRoeder, Apr 11, 11:13:10
        
        Linky linky linky (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 11, 11:06:37
        
        link (NCFC) - CarrowRoeder, Apr 11, 11:08:30
        
        oh. er, I dont think that site looks good at all. sorry...! (n/m) (NCFC) - shoddy, Apr 11, 11:15:35
      - It has that designed in 1995 by a thirteen-year-old look. Nice (n/m) (NCFC) - Fleggster, Apr 11, 11:05:01
        
        Thanks for the support, constructive views might help (n/m) (NCFC) - CarrowRoeder, Apr 11, 11:07:21
        
        I support the idea 100%, but Yellalee has summed it up correctly... (NCFC) - Fleggster, Apr 11, 11:13:55
        
        So what is the main thing that you all don't like about the site, if I know I can sort it (n/m) (NCFC) - CarrowRoeder, Apr 11, 11:19:33
        
        First suggestions... (NCFC) - Fleggster, Apr 11, 11:22:47
        
        redo the header - it is horribly blurry (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 11, 11:30:10
- Canary Kitty - latest picture (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 11, 10:58:16
  - Old Git latest picture (NCFC) - CarrowRoeder, Apr 11, 11:01:38
    - Like Leeds United in the 70s (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 11, 11:04:40

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