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I think it has more to do with the fact we got relegated and teams that get relegated have struggled, especially when they lose many key players and the morale within the crowd goes down.

Posted By: Charles21 on April 1st 2008 at 13:17:49

Message Thread

The reason we got relegated from the Premier League (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 12:53:44
- I blame Gary Holt (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Apr 1, 13:07:13
  - look folks (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:09:06
    - we weren't relegated in 1994 (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:10:33
      - 95? (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:11:36
        
        correct (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:12:30
        
        yup (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:12:24
        
        I sure do (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:13:16
        
        1995? nah... (NCFC) - The Judge, Apr 1, 13:14:31
        
        nah brighton (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:14:24
        
        Gloryhunter then an now (n/m) (NCFC) - nixon, Apr 1, 13:28:39
        
        they were awful that season! (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:29:27
        
        easier option for you eh? (n/m) (NCFC) - nixon, Apr 1, 13:33:14
        
        just a bit! (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:34:40
    - Oops - perhaps I should read the detail as well (n/m) (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Apr 1, 13:10:19
      - nah i created a far better debate! (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:10:57
  - Gary Holt didn't pick himself..... (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:08:19
    - neither did Jamie Carragher (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:09:48
      - jc is a cunt (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:13:23
        
        agree (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:15:39
    - Perhaps you should read the first line of the detail (n/m) (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Apr 1, 13:09:31
      - YOu could have mentioned Worthington by name (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:10:35
        
        I'd like to think that was obvious - (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Apr 1, 13:13:11
- i blame worthington and francis (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 12:54:55
  - I blame the government... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Apr 1, 13:22:52
  - what about Earnshaw? (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:00:19
    - earnshaw was fantastic for us (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:01:04
      - I'll never forget his performance at Fulham. (n/m) (NCFC) - Dog, Apr 1, 13:19:05
        
        i'll never remember it (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:20:02
        
        whoosh? (n/m) (NCFC) - Dog, Apr 1, 13:22:09
        
        no (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:24:20
        
        lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:27:13
        
        Pray tell. (n/m) (NCFC) - Dog, Apr 1, 13:25:24
        
        i don't really see any problem here (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:28:20
        
        Fair enough. (n/m) (NCFC) - Dog, Apr 1, 13:29:47
      - all he ever did was score goals (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:03:35
        
        all he did was raise his profile, we didn't improve or look to be any better (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:07:47
        
        we were in a state when he left cos he stopped fucking scoring! (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:09:42
        
        I suppose Earnshaw appointed Grant as manager as well? (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:09:26
        
        so we were in a state (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:08:35
        
        no, we were in a state, because we spunked money on someone who wasn't going to (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:12:03
        
        see Dean Ashton (n/m) (NCFC) - nixon, Apr 1, 13:15:30
        
        Yep he NEARLY did, (NCFC) - nixon, Apr 1, 13:23:43
        
        the player that nearly kept us up and we doubled our money over? (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:16:54
        
        no we didn't (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:18:18
        
        as I'm often told (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:17:47
        
        considering the embarrassment we were heading to half way through the season (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:19:24
        
        you can't miss him (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:16:33
        
        agreed (n/m) (NCFC) - nixon, Apr 1, 13:24:04
        
        we'd just lost Ashton (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:14:57
        
        I didn't agree with the signing then, and still feel it has a big bearing on where we are (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:16:17
        
        What a load of old bollox (n/m) (NCFC) - nixon, Apr 1, 13:25:53
        
        ok (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:17:49
        
        cock (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:17:25
        
        sell only decent target man, sign short arse (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:16:55
        
        who was far more interested an scored a lot of goals for uss (NCFC) - nixon, Apr 1, 13:30:25
        
        Well... (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:35:16
        
        any striker that scores 27 in 43 (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:38:17
        
        Tried harder, had bigger teeth and more hair (just).. (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Apr 1, 13:38:17
        
        Enter the voice of reason (NCFC) - nixon, Apr 1, 13:41:47
        
        Pleasure... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Apr 1, 13:43:46
        
        Yep but i meant theres nowt wrong with that (n/m) (NCFC) - nixon, Apr 1, 13:49:06
        
        You're in Essex now are you not?.. (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Apr 1, 13:52:10
        
        nope i is not (n/m) (NCFC) - nixon, Apr 1, 13:56:46
        
        wtf did you want him to do apart from scoring shit loads? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:13:57
        
        if Ashton had put a bit of effort in (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:13:29
        
        Ashton looked disheartened (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:15:52
        
        again, I wouldn't let the facts shroud it (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:22:08
        
        so it's acceptable just to give up? (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:26:16
        
        him giving up is opinion fuelled (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:29:30
        
        Or what I witnessed at the games? (n/m) (NCFC) - Brom, Apr 1, 13:36:07
        
        at least the bigger picture is on show in this thread (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:37:42
        
        i agree (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:42:17
        
        that's just silly (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:52:05
        
        or what we saw with our own eyes? (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:31:13
        
        based on facts from his performances (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:30:51
        
        He was one of the only players who tried in a couple of away games by all accounts (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:30:29
        
        I used to say that he tried brilliantly away at QPR (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:32:43
        
        nah the other tried (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:31:38
        
        pure frustration from Ashton (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:28:52
        
        pure selfishness more like! (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:30:01
        
        what being disheartened by the shit around you? (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:32:16
        
        ah ha ha ha (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:35:48
        
        lol my favourite kind of post on WotB (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:34:46
        
        as in lacking any intelligence whatsoever? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:35:33
        
        he signed for us in the Premiership (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:38:18
        
        and talking random bollocks (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:40:36
        
        Nope (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:42:15
        
        i meant these facts mean fuck all (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:45:23
        
        you are trying to justify (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:40:25
        
        Hey you play with Jarrett Hooves Robinson Henderson Charlton (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:43:53
        
        I don't mind him wanting to leave (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:48:29
        
        it would appear so! (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:40:57
        
        a good insight into phrankin this is (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:42:30
        
        I respect the guy for what he did for us in the Premiership (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:47:44
        
        so it's ok to have 'had enough'? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:49:46
        
        Is it Ok, No it isnt, but even Huicks has been guilty of it (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:54:02
        
        Looking at the seasons goalscoring (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:57:40
        
        you're weird (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:33:28
        
        when he left us.... (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:36:58
        
        And McVeigh who had lost interest by then (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:24:59
        
        bizarre what happens when the bigger picture unfolds (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:25:59
        
        What quality did Earnshaw have behind him? (n/m) (NCFC) - nixon, Apr 1, 13:27:04
        
        You can argue that about Ashton (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:31:57
        
        Agreed but that is being used as an excuse for Ashton not giving a fuck (NCFC) - nixon, Apr 1, 13:36:07
        
        Green (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:27:30
        
        haha (n/m) (NCFC) - nixon, Apr 1, 13:29:05
        
        I know (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:26:59
        
        his subsequent injury nightmare since we sold him backs that point up (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:14:33
        
        his injuries aren't connected with him not trying (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:16:10
        
        as I remember Worthington played him injured (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:18:01
        
        I wouldn't let the facts get in the way (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:20:54
        
        which facts? (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:21:53
        
        the imaginary ones in his head (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:22:24
        
        who is fully fit these days? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:19:23
        
        and crap with it. (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:19:52
        
        like at bristol? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:20:51
        
        Well by crap I mean nowhere near the player he was. (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:22:02
        
        that's still above the standard of this division! (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:24:07
        
        I aint dissing the guy just making the point if you are injured (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:26:12
        
        neither is dion dublin (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:23:13
        
        and he kept us up last season - that is now clear seeing how Grant managed this season (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:22:01
        
        that was Karma (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:15:29
        
        Is Earnshaw's form now karma because he left us in the lurch? (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:17:35
        
        no it's because he wasn't picked by the manager (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:19:40
        
        he didn't leave us in the lurch (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:18:58
        
        No (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:18:44
        
        lol (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:20:24
        
        Hardly see how Etuhu has let sunderland down (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:20:10
        
        lol (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:21:11
        
        indeed - not the couple I work with anyway (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:22:58
        
        hardly see how Earnshaw has let Derby down (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:20:46
        
        Where did I say he had? (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:23:00
        
        you asked if his form was karma (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:26:11
        
        Where did I say Etuhu had let Sunderland down? (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:25:14
        
        So where does karma work with Etuhu then? (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:27:53
        
        there is no karma - he is just very average and is still very average (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:35:29
        
        so where does Karma work with Earnshaw??! (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:28:53
        
        haha, answer my question, you incinuated something (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:33:02
        
        you are insane (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:39:31
        
        yeah, I started it (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:41:03
        
        yep (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:42:46
        
        lol (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 13:46:02
        
        that you know fuck all about football? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:34:20
        
        spot on (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:16:44
        
        actually after he left we were far worse off (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:09:28
        
        I know that (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 1, 13:11:05
        
        actually my post was in response to pantses (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:12:18
        
        actually it wasnt! (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:14:15
        
        until a manager managed for situation (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:11:00
        
        *the not for (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 1, 13:11:13
        
        He should have worked harder like Chris Brown, with all those flick ons (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 13:05:18
        
        not forgetting peter thorne as well! (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:05:54

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