As The Guardian article suggests, it affects good-natured fans as much as players.

If I'd been in a crowd where some people were singing that song at Sol Campbell, I'd have felt absolutely disgusted - firstly that people can be so unpleasant, and secondly that I was in the same group of fans and thus could be identified with it.

Which obviously would put me off going in the future. Which would be a shame as I love going to football matches.

Posted By: Ottosson Foxtrot on December 20th 2007 at 21:37:19

Message Thread

I agree with Sol Campbell (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 21:16:55
- Just ban the fans from the ground (n/m) (Other Football) - norfolkbroadslim, Dec 20, 21:54:40
- wether Sol Campbell has a point or not ,the only certain thing this weekend..... (Other Football) - ghostof barry butler, Dec 20, 21:51:04
- I think football in this country should address the real abuse (Other Football) - pants, Dec 20, 21:21:15
  - Rob Styles deserves everything he gets (n/m) (Other Football) - Stoopish, Dec 20, 21:28:47
  - It's possibly all part of the same cycle (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 21:24:46
    - It would be a start imo if the game lead by example (Other Football) - pants, Dec 20, 21:31:31
      - It's NOT hypercritical if you are merely a victim of the cycle (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 21:35:11
        
        As The Guardian article suggests, it affects good-natured fans as much as players. (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 20, 21:37:19
        
        Any form of prejudice is repugnant and needs to be eradciated from the game (Other Football) - Army Boy, Dec 20, 21:45:35
        
        thats just it (Other Football) - ghostof barry butler, Dec 20, 21:52:20
        
        David Ginola for example (n/m) (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 21:55:22
        
        starting with lee bowyer (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Dec 20, 21:48:55
        
        The problem, of course, is that one man's humour can be another man's offence ... (n/m) (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 20, 21:47:17
        
        Only on the fringe really. Out and out prejudice is easy to identify, start with that 1st (n/m) (Other Football) - Army Boy, Dec 20, 21:48:46
        
        Bang on the money, Otto (n/m) (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 21:38:45
    - Campbell's had it worse than most - and certainly doesn't deserve this: (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 20, 21:29:50
      - He's brought that on himself though (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Dec 20, 21:33:53
        
        oh dear (Other Football) - Stoopish, Dec 20, 21:36:56
        
        *splutter* I'm sorry? (n/m) (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 21:35:51
        
        You think he's brought the "hanging on a tree" stuff on himself? (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 20, 21:35:00
        
        I don't agree with what is chanted no (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Dec 20, 21:38:38
        
        Which is to be, Pants? Has he brought it on himself or not?? NOT impressed (n/m) (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 21:40:29
        
        Why did you say he'd brought it on himself then? (n/m) (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 20, 21:39:28
        
        You know the answer to this, it doesn't need spelling out about football rivalry (Other Football) - pants, Dec 20, 21:41:20
        
        "It's nothing new" is hardly a defence (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 21:44:26
        
        And to be fair, Pants isn't known for his ability to brush aside personal jibes ... (n/m) (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 20, 21:45:33
        
        A fabulous huff with a real flourish. Bravo. (n/m) (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 21:49:48
        
        Yes. Below. I know. (n/m) (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 21:50:38
        
        fair enough, lick each others arses, blub you two win (Other Football) - pants, Dec 20, 21:47:54
        
        For God's sake - you need to grow up sometimes. The World isn't out to get YOU!!! (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Dec 20, 21:52:12
        
        To be fair, it was a great flounce (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 21:54:37
        
        So was it a debate, or a battle? (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Dec 20, 21:58:00
        
        Objectively - it looked like a debate until you made it a (personal) battle.... (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Dec 20, 22:00:59
        
        In points of the argument I agreed, yet they were ignored (Other Football) - pants, Dec 20, 22:02:45
        
        not guilty (n/m) (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 22:05:35
        
        Actually - I take that back, it was Otto that made it personal... (Other Football) - Yellalee, Dec 20, 22:02:15
        
        Sorry! I tried not to be too harsh about it, but it did strike as incongruous (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 20, 22:03:43
        
        Figure of speech, Pants (n/m) (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 21:59:14
        
        So what level do you want this to stop? Do you want Ashton jokes about being gay to stop? (Other Football) - pants, Dec 20, 22:01:22
        
        All I want is for you to acknowledge that Sol Campbell has a point (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 22:03:54
        
        I already have (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Dec 20, 22:06:45
        
        Have you? Where? (n/m) (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 22:09:03
        
        accross this thread I've said I don't agree with what is being chanted, and I think (Other Football) - pants, Dec 20, 22:12:23
        
        Oh COME ON Pants!! (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 22:15:58
        
        and I've already stated that it's ok just complaining about it, but the whole of football (Other Football) - pants, Dec 20, 22:20:26
        
        It's "ok just complaining about it" REALLY? (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 22:23:03
        
        I thought you said stabbing a goat in the bath. I wish you had. (n/m) (Other Football) - tudders, Dec 20, 22:24:57
        
        "He can't even play the race card to deepen his argument," (n/m) (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 20, 22:24:27
        
        I didn't know about the guardian interview until tonight (Other Football) - pants, Dec 20, 22:27:34
        
        Fair enough then - I accept that. (n/m) (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 20, 22:28:54
        
        Me too. Virtual handshake. The End. Goodnight. (n/m) (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 22:30:07
        
        Yeah, I was actually round The Judge's house ten minutes ago moulding this conspiracy. (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 20, 21:51:21
        
        Not to mention our very sore cocks, of course (n/m) (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 21:53:36
        
        FFS, you don't BITE! (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 20, 21:56:02
        
        You're not supposed to blow either. (n/m) (Other Football) - tudders, Dec 20, 21:58:04
        
        But I like it! (n/m) (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 20, 22:00:16
        
        I think he's brought being called a "Judas cunt" on himself, yes (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 20, 21:43:40
        
        So verballing abusing someone without being offensive is okay then? (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Dec 20, 22:06:07
        
        I didn't say it was OK, my point was that it was within the realm of what might reasonably (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 20, 22:11:02
        
        Well said! Now excuse me while I shove THIS up your ass (n/m) (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 22:13:17
        
        Oh, not the life-sized replica of the Sears Tower again, I can't take it any more! (n/m) (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 20, 22:14:34
  - this is what is tiring me about this. referees get it from the crowd, and 22 players (Other Football) - pants, Dec 20, 21:23:49
    - but just because you feel there are greater injustices (Other Football) - The Judge, Dec 20, 21:27:37

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