No, sorry, I can't accept that

I can see the point of view of the police - they're under pressure & the consequences of not acting are potentially terrible; but innocent until proven guilty is a basic tenent of any human rights and people who abuse it (however understandably) should be held accountable - especially armed police who are supposed to be highly trained for these situations. That said, the facts are a still sketchy at the moment & it's not clear what warnings were issued; nor why they gave chase in the first place. Nor why he ran.

Posted By: BerlinCanary on July 24th 2005 at 00:07:56

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geezer who got shot on tube... (General Chat) - istanbuldom, Jul 23, 23:53:22
- No, sorry, I can't accept that (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jul 24, 00:07:56
  - CNN report that witnesses say the Brazilian vaulted the turnstiles (General Chat) - oh arr, Jul 24, 10:11:46
  - The fucking human rights act is the worst thing to happen to this....... (General Chat) - The Baron, Jul 24, 01:03:54
    - Whose Human Rights do these bombers consider when they commit their acts ? (n/m) (General Chat) - oh arr, Jul 24, 10:15:14
    - Until you need it (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jul 24, 01:09:33
      - It is very unlikely that i will ever need it and.............. (General Chat) - The Baron, Jul 24, 01:14:36
        
        Bring back the stocks and Cat o' nine tails is what I say (n/m) (General Chat) - oh arr, Jul 24, 10:14:19
        
        But they are still humans regardless (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jul 24, 01:18:06
        
        Maybe i am, although i am not quite sure what you mean by a police state. (n/m) (General Chat) - The Baron, Jul 24, 01:19:12
        
        what i mean is (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jul 24, 01:24:57
        
        Cos they were using low impact bullets ............. (General Chat) - The Baron, Jul 24, 01:32:04
        
        Well, I'm not sure I'd go that far - there's very little evidence for that conclusion (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jul 24, 01:31:56
        
        after you Mr Bomber while you detonate your bomb...... (n/m) (General Chat) - oh arr, Jul 24, 10:17:45
        
        read the eyewitness testimonies!! (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Jul 24, 01:26:25
    - alot of namby pamby liberals about (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Jul 24, 01:07:06
      - Yes there should be an inquiry and an apology has already been issued (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jul 24, 01:14:40
        
        read above (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Jul 24, 01:16:54
      - Too right, at least now no one hopefully will be ............ (General Chat) - The Baron, Jul 24, 01:09:36
      - (not you baron) (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Jul 24, 01:07:43
        
        Of course. (n/m) (General Chat) - The Baron, Jul 24, 01:09:49
  - police will be held accountable.. (General Chat) - istanbuldom, Jul 24, 00:16:27
    - Shoot first ask questions later is the only way to deal with suspected suicide bombers.... (General Chat) - The Baron, Jul 24, 01:07:17
      - Sir you are a wanker of the highest order (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jul 24, 01:12:00
        
        I bet that guy who got shot was not a good citizen. (n/m) (General Chat) - The Baron, Jul 24, 01:15:34
        
        he has a point (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Jul 24, 01:14:07
        
        no he doesn't have a point (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jul 24, 01:19:45
        
        yes he does (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Jul 24, 01:22:54
        
        so every drunk who runs away from the police (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jul 24, 01:27:58
        
        dont be so naive, consider the context (n/m) (General Chat) - oh arr, Jul 24, 10:24:16
        
        not every drunk leaves a suspected building, (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Jul 24, 01:29:56
        
        and is seen to vault the turnstiles (n/m) (General Chat) - oh arr, Jul 24, 10:25:30
    - I haven't read anywhere that he "resisted arrest"; although it's (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jul 24, 00:36:03
      - I do'nt mind being scanned anywhere i go, i do'nt give a shit if...... (General Chat) - The Baron, Jul 24, 01:16:48
      - terrorism... (General Chat) - istanbuldom, Jul 24, 00:44:12
        
        fuck the scanners (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Jul 24, 00:56:33
        
        agreed (n/m) (General Chat) - oh arr, Jul 24, 10:27:40
        
        not enough of them around i guess (General Chat) - istanbuldom, Jul 24, 01:02:01
        
        not enough of them around i guess (n/m) (General Chat) - istanbuldom, Jul 24, 00:59:29
    - if you run when not asked to stop after being issued with a (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Jul 24, 00:27:33
      - depends what he was told... (General Chat) - istanbuldom, Jul 24, 00:33:45
        
        Or a Brazilian with perhaps a poor grasp of the language and police procedures? (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jul 24, 00:44:50
        
        apparently he had a good grasp of english and had lived here for 3 years (n/m) (General Chat) - oh arr, Jul 24, 10:28:54
        
        international language of police... (General Chat) - istanbuldom, Jul 24, 00:51:31
        
        this is true (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Jul 24, 00:55:30
        
        The bloke made a terrible mistake - he legged it instead of stopping (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jul 24, 01:07:55
        
        agree, level heads called for... (General Chat) - istanbuldom, Jul 24, 01:14:43
        
        Yes, I agree: level heads (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jul 24, 01:23:33
        
        terrorism is evil... (General Chat) - istanbuldom, Jul 24, 01:27:37
        
        Same to you. (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jul 24, 01:35:34
        
        agree on both counts (n/m) (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Jul 24, 00:37:07

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