"Near the end" meaning 1941 ?

Maybe not, but certainly toward the end of 1942 he was already making very bad decision in over-ruling his generals on the eastern front.

Posted By: Steve in Holland on March 6th 2007 at 11:25:34

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Good morning true fans of Norwich City (NCFC) - Nigel_Worthington, Mar 6, 10:21:35
- its been good to see the offers flooding in eh Nige? (n/m) (NCFC) - bobble, Mar 6, 10:37:13
- a little bit like America (NCFC) - pants, Mar 6, 10:29:11
  - It's only gone wrong for the rest of us (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 10:44:39
    - It has had some side benefits for us too (NCFC) - Old Git, Mar 6, 10:58:18
      - If it wasn't for the Yanks, hitler wouldn't have had such capability (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Mar 6, 11:07:17
        
        Gus, don't embarrass yourself by joining in when the grown ups are talking (NCFC) - Old Git, Mar 6, 11:12:40
        
        haha, the Yanks needed a Nazi germany to pile money into to get over the Wall Street Crash (NCFC) - pants, Mar 6, 11:18:32
        
        He's been watching Robert Newman ^^^^^^ (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:20:30
        
        I got an education Steve (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Mar 6, 11:22:29
        
        Sorry, hadn't thought of that. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:24:01
        
        I gathered (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Mar 6, 11:24:13
      - More Stalin than the Yanks (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:00:43
        
        Don't be silly (NCFC) - Old Git, Mar 6, 11:02:26
        
        Nah. I'd be Comrade Steve. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:05:14
        
        Isn't it more likely that without US support, and Britain probably falling, (NCFC) - Old Git, Mar 6, 11:15:12
        
        would be my take (NCFC) - megson, Mar 6, 11:21:37
        
        "Near the end" meaning 1941 ? (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:25:34
        
        well yes fair point (NCFC) - megson, Mar 6, 11:29:14
        
        This is my point though. US didn't (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:32:12
        
        I don't agree, because you underestimate how much stronger Germany would have been (NCFC) - Old Git, Mar 6, 11:34:54
        
        Do you enjoy custard? (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Mar 6, 11:39:25
        
        Surreal moment of the day so far (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Mar 6, 11:41:16
        
        haha (NCFC) - Brandonio, Mar 6, 11:44:43
        
        Yes, but I don't think I do. (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:38:58
        
        Excellent idea (NCFC) - Old Git, Mar 6, 11:40:42
        
        to a point... (NCFC) - Brandonio, Mar 6, 11:51:06
        
        Exactly... (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:44:50
        
        I think that's what Joe was expecting after they carved up Poland, but I (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:19:25
        
        It must be right that the single most important factor for Hitler losing (NCFC) - Old Git, Mar 6, 11:30:47
        
        I think that's an argument which we'll never know the answer to, although (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:35:43
        
        We never will, fortunately. By the way, the US was in on our side from 1941 onwards (NCFC) - Old Git, Mar 6, 11:39:18
        
        Yeah well they didn't do much fighting there did they ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:45:31
        
        We were there too (NCFC) - Old Git, Mar 6, 11:51:10
        
        "Their money" ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:55:00
        
        and the american volunteers (NCFC) - megson, Mar 6, 11:53:50
        
        Poles (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:55:47
        
        and that would of gone better for the germans (NCFC) - megson, Mar 6, 11:24:28
        
        Although the Americans didn't join that until 1943 (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:29:27
        
        which (as OG says above) stalled him (NCFC) - megson, Mar 6, 11:33:24
        
        Here we go again. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Mar 6, 11:02:26
        
        Fuck's sake. Not allowed an opinion ? (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:06:07
        
        you never back up the ridiculous accusations of things I've said (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Mar 6, 11:13:30
        
        Ha ha. That didn't take long (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:15:42
        
        I knew you'd "get your back for yesterday". I'm happy to point out facts though (NCFC) - pants, Mar 6, 11:19:57
        
        What yesterday ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:21:30
        
        I'm having a very busy day today. (NCFC) - Sanctimony Police, Mar 6, 11:11:54
        
        You are pants and I claim my £5 (NCFC) - Old Git, Mar 6, 11:11:52
        
        = "Sorry, I just can't help being a cunt" (n/m) (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Mar 6, 11:10:56
        
        No I'm not sorry! Come on then, let's get your theory. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:13:00
        
        Please indicate where I have ever suggested that I have a theory. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Mar 6, 11:16:57
        
        That one will do. Expand. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Mar 6, 11:20:49

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