Hey, I'm Not Defending Them!

Labour under Callaghan-"Winter of discontent", rubbish left on streets for weeks, the dead not being buried, workers fighting each other, strike after strike after strike, too much Union power and influence....

Conservatives under Thatcher/Major- "Poll Tax", economic meltdown, as you say-mind you, followed by economic recovery which Blair and co inherited; selling off of public sector (wrong wrong WRONG!), lack of support and investment for manufacturing industries....

New Labour under Blair-Fighting needless wars, Council Tax (continues to rise, more and more people imprisoned, why there haven't been riots against this, I can't quite understand!), education and law and order falling apart, armed forces stripped of investment and numbers, John Prescott....

Yet all had their good points I suppose?

I think a lot of the problems in this country go way, way beyond party politics/policies and who did what, and who is going to do what etc etc-and that things will not change, no matter what the Government, at least, in its present format, Labour, Tory, whatever...

Posted By: Martin Peters on January 28th 2007 at 18:14:43

Message Thread

Oh yes you are ! (General Chat) - Army Boy, Jan 28, 17:46:27
- and we got a Tory government to look forward to in a few years time. (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Jan 28, 17:48:44
  - Can't be any worse than the USELESS government we have now (n/m) (General Chat) - Commisar_Canary, Jan 28, 21:41:23
  - Because the country is in perfect shape under Labour (n/m) (General Chat) - Brom, Jan 28, 17:50:06
    - You are a Tory voter.... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Jan 28, 18:31:02
      - The trouble is there isn?t really a democracy in this country... (General Chat) - The Duke of Norfolk, Jan 28, 18:33:28
        
        very true - I really don't think there's a real democracy in any country (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 28, 18:35:49
        
        I once thought the public should vote on every issue (General Chat) - Poirot, Jan 28, 18:41:43
        
        Ideally only those who've taken the time to inform themselves (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 28, 18:46:39
        
        My plan was to have an aspect of the civil service (General Chat) - Poirot, Jan 28, 18:54:11
        
        interesting idea (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 28, 18:57:05
        
        No idea (General Chat) - Poirot, Jan 28, 19:10:55
        
        The only place I've been where a majority of people seem to 'support' (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 28, 19:17:59
        
        Well I always thought that if I was a Dictator (General Chat) - Poirot, Jan 28, 19:32:59
        
        You'd get my vote. (General Chat) - tudders, Jan 28, 19:39:34
        
        Very nicely put. Let's form a party (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 28, 19:37:34
        
        Think Russia (n/m) (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Jan 28, 19:25:56
        
        hmm, don't quite follow you (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 28, 19:28:38
        
        It's a dictatorship... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Jan 28, 19:39:32
        
        It's true that cubans are informed by state media, but (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 29, 04:23:34
        
        As a youngster he was a decent player, but (n/m) (General Chat) - the Tilt Man, Apr 1, 20:16:19
        
        I vote Lib Dem..... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Jan 28, 18:34:38
        
        and that's your reason? (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Jan 28, 18:37:24
        
        well...... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Jan 28, 18:38:56
        
        two words... Opik Lembit! Dear oh dear (n/m) (General Chat) - Poirot, Jan 28, 18:45:46
    - The country's fucked, and it's too late to change it. Fact. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Jan 28, 18:27:23
      - Why? (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jan 28, 18:41:04
        
        Please refrain from replying to my flippant, based on no fact whatsoever, posts. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Jan 28, 18:45:40
        
        Ha ha. Will do (apart from this one, obviously). (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Jan 28, 19:18:46
    - I Note... (General Chat) - Martin Peters, Jan 28, 18:02:14
      - What do the Torys actually stand for? (General Chat) - Iwan Husarmi, Jan 28, 18:14:17
        
        couldn't agree more (General Chat) - Poirot, Jan 28, 18:34:13
        
        We need a right wing "no messing" attitude towards law and order... (General Chat) - The Duke of Norfolk, Jan 28, 18:32:13
        
        Penal colonies? (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jan 28, 18:34:37
        
        send them to Greenland (General Chat) - Poirot, Jan 28, 18:37:26
        
        I'm sure Greenlandians would have something to say about that.... (n/m) (General Chat) - wayne, Jan 28, 18:42:00
        
        True! But there aren't that many of them! (General Chat) - Poirot, Jan 28, 18:43:22
        
        lol.. (General Chat) - wayne, Jan 28, 18:51:07
        
        Election (n/m) (General Chat) - lovely old job, Jan 28, 18:22:36
        
        I'll set 'em up, you knock 'em down! (n/m) (General Chat) - Iwan Husarmi, Jan 28, 18:24:11
        
        Underclass send them to live in Ipswich (n/m) (General Chat) - harleston1933, Jan 28, 18:22:23
      - Under the Cons all the mental institutions were closed and the patients left to walk the.. (General Chat) - harleston1933, Jan 28, 18:06:29
        
        Hey, I'm Not Defending Them! (General Chat) - Martin Peters, Jan 28, 18:14:43
        
        There was a riot at Lincoln prison in 2002 (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jan 28, 18:29:52
        
        I bet they would have gone back to their cells though. (n/m) (General Chat) - The Duke of Norfolk, Jan 28, 18:34:57
        
        Well, they did anyway after a few hours (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jan 28, 18:37:21
        
        Blunkett is a fucking cunt of the highest order and as right wing as most tories (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 28, 18:32:49
        
        Agreed..... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Jan 28, 18:38:15
        
        Anarchy for the UK (n/m) (General Chat) - harleston1933, Jan 28, 18:23:51
        
        Apathy more like. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Jan 28, 18:29:22
      - how can a telephone line be 'unsuccesfully royal'? (n/m) (General Chat) - Dave in France, Jan 28, 18:05:26
        
        Oh Dave!! (General Chat) - Martin Peters, Jan 28, 18:07:12
        
        i reckon the judge has done us all a favour (General Chat) - blindasabat, Jan 28, 18:46:12
    - Do you remember what it was like under the Conservatives. You can keep them (n/m) (General Chat) - harleston1933, Jan 28, 18:00:39
      - hate to break this to you, but new Labour's policies are traditional conservative policies (General Chat) - blindasabat, Jan 28, 18:51:10
        
        True,very true. Sadly. (n/m) (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Jan 28, 19:01:39
      - Lets Face It... (General Chat) - Martin Peters, Jan 28, 18:03:44
    - The tories made such a good job of it last time didn't they? (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 28, 17:58:29
      - Bollocks (n/m) (General Chat) - Brom, Jan 28, 18:11:45
        
        The Tories are a joke mate... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Jan 28, 18:32:07
        
        So you hate them because your family hate them? Are you capable of free thought? (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Jan 28, 18:34:26
        
        They off nothing for people like,my family.... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Jan 28, 18:35:35
        
        Selfish cunt. What about my family, and my mates and their families? (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Jan 28, 18:41:46
        
        Come on tudds ... (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jan 28, 18:50:15
        
        I can afford two. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Jan 28, 18:51:53
        
        But that means someone wont get one ... (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jan 28, 18:54:20
        
        Oh and you as a Tory.... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Jan 28, 18:43:31
        
        Lol... (General Chat) - wayne, Jan 28, 18:52:25
        
        So what matters in your life? (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Jan 28, 18:49:08
        
        The gap closing between..... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Jan 28, 18:53:00
        
        the gap is widening because of globaslisation... (General Chat) - Poirot, Jan 28, 19:01:19
        
        Good, we got there in there end. But don't be so quick to judge. (General Chat) - tudders, Jan 28, 18:57:20
        
        I have mates that vote Tory..... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Jan 28, 19:00:15
        
        As a youngster he was a decent player, but (n/m) (General Chat) - the Tilt Man, Apr 1, 20:17:01
        
        why though? (n/m) (General Chat) - Poirot, Jan 28, 19:55:17
        
        Because... (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Jan 28, 20:15:54
        
        Care to elaborate or is that what passes for debate in your house? (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 28, 18:19:44
        
        Typical Tory attitude Bollocks to everyone who didnt vote for us or not of our class (n/m) (General Chat) - harleston1933, Jan 28, 18:26:31
        
        Quite agree. I will NEVER vote Tory. (n/m) (General Chat) - PK_Canary, Jan 28, 18:33:21
        
        So it seems. No thought involved whatsoever (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 28, 18:30:04

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