Well, you see, there's idealists and there's realists, tho' I hate to say it
How can I put this without sounding like a c**t? It's a really long story and I strongly suspect that nobody wants to hear it anyway.
Thing with activism, you see, it's okay when you're young, but when you get past your mid-30s it's possible to tire of being the angry bloke who's always trying to persuade people that things *aren't* all right the way they are.
I mean I still buy fairtrade goods where possible, and I still boycott products from offensive manufacturers, and even recently (2 yrs ago when I was skint and desperate) I've turned down employment from a firm whose ethics I mistrusted. My AI membership is long lapsed, mind: I'm an ex-activist, in all honesty.
See, the thing is that you can grow weary of fighting the good fight. I mention all of the above in the hope that you'll accept my credentials in some small part before condemning me for what I'm about to type.
Steve - I applaud your remarks, honest I do, we need more like you: about 400 million more. Until we have that kind of number, though, I'd rather have one Ben than a hundred well-meaning but ineffective self-kidders.
Because a man who openly confesses that he likes (say) his iPod, his xBox, his credit cards and his reeboks is being honest and has clearly made his decision - *that* means he's thought about things, and will think again, and again. The people who broke my spirit were the ones who really believed that they'd like to make a difference whenever they could find the time. They're the ones who upgrade to the new xBox.
Joss Stone asked "Why are we having to do this again? What's wrong with these people?"
Well I can't answer that without coming over like the c**t I'm trying to avoid being. But it doesn't take a genius to think it through - and again, Steve, I'm not having a go at you mate, I promise. But my own belief is that the "these people" who are the problem aren't actually the politicians: they're just doing their job. They know what we expect of them - and when I say 'we' I don't mean me and you and everyone else on this board, I mean every UK citizen. We aren't doing OUR job.
(Backs away, feeling grubby)
Posted By: Suggy on July 3rd 2005 at 21:28:45
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- Ben.... (General Chat) - Steve Ball Was Good, Jul 3, 20:46:11
- Nice to see you embracing more than one opinion (General Chat) - Ben, Jul 3, 21:29:00
- You see... (General Chat) - Steve Ball Was Good, Jul 3, 21:45:45
- Free trade = exporting UK jobs....just ask those who have lost jobs at NU ! (n/m) (General Chat) - oh arr, Jul 4, 02:28:19
- Free trade (General Chat) - oh arr, Jul 4, 02:53:41
- a significant part of Africa's problems is down to bad governance (General Chat) - oh arr, Jul 4, 02:39:56
- However we should try to encourage African countries (General Chat) - oh arr, Jul 4, 03:03:26
- ...and condoms to try and turn the HIV tide (General Chat) - DJ Ginga, Jul 4, 03:17:24
- its the Catholic church that has problem with condom use (n/m) (General Chat) - oh arr, Jul 4, 09:26:20
- ...and condoms to try and turn the HIV tide (General Chat) - DJ Ginga, Jul 4, 03:17:24
- However we should try to encourage African countries (General Chat) - oh arr, Jul 4, 03:03:26
- Why can't they trade amongst themselves? (General Chat) - Ben, Jul 3, 22:17:18
- Tell you what mate... (General Chat) - d0mj4y, Jul 3, 21:54:23
- Ah... (General Chat) - Steve Ball Was Good, Jul 3, 21:57:23
- That's not my viewpoint at all... (General Chat) - d0mj4y, Jul 3, 22:02:55
- Heh heh (General Chat) - Suggy, Jul 3, 22:00:05
- That was originally my intention... (General Chat) - d0mj4y, Jul 3, 22:03:57
- This is all very well, but (General Chat) - LowestoftBoy, Jul 3, 22:49:35
- How many worldwide smash hits have The Killers managed (General Chat) - Cannydc, Jul 4, 00:37:38
- and velvet revolver seemed to have half an hour (n/m) (General Chat) - Dave in France, Jul 3, 23:04:02
- This is all very well, but (General Chat) - LowestoftBoy, Jul 3, 22:49:35
- That was originally my intention... (General Chat) - d0mj4y, Jul 3, 22:03:57
- Ah... (General Chat) - Steve Ball Was Good, Jul 3, 21:57:23
- Newsflash (General Chat) - Suggy, Jul 3, 21:52:00
- Free trade = exporting UK jobs....just ask those who have lost jobs at NU ! (n/m) (General Chat) - oh arr, Jul 4, 02:28:19
- You see... (General Chat) - Steve Ball Was Good, Jul 3, 21:45:45
- Well, you see, there's idealists and there's realists, tho' I hate to say it (General Chat) - Suggy, Jul 3, 21:28:45
- Isn't that odd? (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Jul 3, 21:41:55
- Actually, I have hope with this upcoming generation (General Chat) - Suggy, Jul 3, 21:50:03
- young people in the past were idealist (General Chat) - oh arr, Jul 4, 03:15:13
- Actually, I have hope with this upcoming generation (General Chat) - Suggy, Jul 3, 21:50:03
- Isn't that odd? (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Jul 3, 21:41:55
- Actually its the reason why.... (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jul 3, 21:28:02
- Nice to see you embracing more than one opinion (General Chat) - Ben, Jul 3, 21:29:00
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