It may sound like it, but it isnt

For example, how many graduates end up starting a job when they leave in the field that they qualified in?

I would say the percentage is low

How many graduates who do then get a job in their studied subject, have to start on low money, the equivalent of what they would have started on after A-Levels?

Ok, what about an example

You are an employer in advertising looking for an employee for a decent job, salary around 35k per annum, you have 2 applicants, one has worked for an advertising firm since leaving school, starting at the bottom, working his way up to a good position within the compnay gaining good experience within the industry and has good references but no piece of paper or silly hat from a Uni, he is now 22.

Applicant 2 is also 22, he has just finished a reasonbley respected degree, with average marks, with average A levels and average GCSE's. No expereience in teh trade and never had a full time job.

Now who would you employ?

Posted By: DiscoDaleGordon on October 10th 2006 at 10:46:00

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Not being funny but, (General Chat) - NCFC4life, Oct 10, 09:21:18
- What about all the money they contribute in tuition fees and student loan payback? (General Chat) - lurd, Oct 10, 11:34:12
- You are right (General Chat) - lurd, Oct 10, 11:11:10
- Yeah right (General Chat) - Riverking, Oct 10, 10:02:43
  - too many people go to uni thinking they will come out and walk into a job, (General Chat) - NCFC4life, Oct 10, 10:17:35
    - I think there is a line in a Killers song which starts... (General Chat) - Riverking, Oct 10, 12:16:34
    - Schools and society are to blame (General Chat) - DiscoDaleGordon, Oct 10, 10:24:30
      - Yep..... (General Chat) - InTheAbsenceOfAHorse, Oct 10, 10:41:58
        
        Great idea for the intelligent or even reasonably intelligent (General Chat) - DiscoDaleGordon, Oct 10, 10:47:24
        
        So now magic up those jobs. (General Chat) - InTheAbsenceOfAHorse, Oct 10, 10:56:05
        
        A good point, but it works both ways (General Chat) - DiscoDaleGordon, Oct 10, 10:58:21
        
        That's the whole point. (General Chat) - InTheAbsenceOfAHorse, Oct 10, 11:04:39
        
        That's the whole point. (General Chat) - InTheAbsenceOfAHorse, Oct 10, 11:04:04
        
        FEWER jobs (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 10, 11:22:28
        
        Ha ha....... (General Chat) - InTheAbsenceOfAHorse, Oct 10, 11:28:42
        
        Once again... (General Chat) - Brom, Oct 10, 10:50:39
        
        On that point i would agree (n/m) (General Chat) - DiscoDaleGordon, Oct 10, 10:52:39
      - precisely, (General Chat) - NCFC4life, Oct 10, 10:25:42
        
        Sounds like the bitter ramblings of a thicko to be honest (n/m) (General Chat) - Brom, Oct 10, 10:38:33
        
        It may sound like it, but it isnt (General Chat) - DiscoDaleGordon, Oct 10, 10:46:00
        
        Yeah...... (General Chat) - InTheAbsenceOfAHorse, Oct 10, 10:59:20
        
        Which can also be done through progression through a company (General Chat) - DiscoDaleGordon, Oct 10, 11:02:51
        
        Of course it can. (General Chat) - InTheAbsenceOfAHorse, Oct 10, 11:05:59
        
        Ok fair enough (General Chat) - DiscoDaleGordon, Oct 10, 11:08:00
        
        Not all do. (General Chat) - InTheAbsenceOfAHorse, Oct 10, 11:10:48
        
        Yeah that is true, I agree (General Chat) - DiscoDaleGordon, Oct 10, 11:14:38
        
        So you are saying that people can't make a mistake? (General Chat) - Brom, Oct 10, 11:20:04
        
        No im saying (General Chat) - DiscoDaleGordon, Oct 10, 11:25:27
        
        Over 50% of graduate jobs require a specific area of study. (General Chat) - InTheAbsenceOfAHorse, Oct 10, 11:31:55
        
        Insert do not in above title. (n/m) (General Chat) - InTheAbsenceOfAHorse, Oct 10, 11:36:24
        
        Yes, now get back to stacking those shelves (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Gregg, Oct 10, 11:21:31
        
        Leaving school at 18... (General Chat) - Brom, Oct 10, 10:50:07
        
        I think it's partly a generational thing (General Chat) - duke of york, Oct 10, 10:55:16
        
        What about if they left at 16? (General Chat) - DiscoDaleGordon, Oct 10, 10:53:39
        
        I've been in that position dozens of times in my field of IT. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Oct 10, 10:49:26
        
        IT jobs I've looked at... (General Chat) - Brom, Oct 10, 10:53:43
        
        We never said that. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Oct 10, 10:57:57
        
        Or a beard, and some zits, and an inability to look people in the eye (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 10, 10:55:51
        
        How do you know that if you have got a degree? (n/m) (General Chat) - DiscoDaleGordon, Oct 10, 10:55:48
        
        I have a few friends back home who went into IT straight from 6th form... (General Chat) - Brom, Oct 10, 11:10:40
        
        Really? (General Chat) - DiscoDaleGordon, Oct 10, 10:52:14
        
        Why? (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Oct 10, 10:49:53
        
        I guess they interviewed better. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Oct 10, 10:56:43
        
        It's a requirement for most professions (General Chat) - duke of york, Oct 10, 10:58:51
        
        Cos they know where to score the best drugs (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 10, 10:55:18
    - University is not all about education... (General Chat) - Brom, Oct 10, 10:21:37
      - It bears little relation to real life (General Chat) - duke of york, Oct 10, 10:24:08
        
        It does... (General Chat) - Brom, Oct 10, 10:38:06
      - rofl, (General Chat) - NCFC4life, Oct 10, 10:22:58
    - Four years ripped to the tits on drugs sounds like fun and a decent ambition to me. (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Oct 10, 10:18:29
      - haha, each to their own (n/m) (General Chat) - NCFC4life, Oct 10, 10:20:17
        
        Oh, and you're wrong by the way. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Oct 10, 10:32:49
        
        drugs no but, (General Chat) - NCFC4life, Oct 10, 10:37:38
- Steady on. Who the fuck do you think (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Oct 10, 09:33:33
  - haha, (General Chat) - NCFC4life, Oct 10, 09:36:32
    - Anyone who has ever worked at McDs (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Oct 10, 09:38:27
      - but i did redeem myself by, (General Chat) - NCFC4life, Oct 10, 09:46:49
        
        What do you want, a fucking medal? (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Oct 10, 10:01:23
        
        no i got one, (General Chat) - NCFC4life, Oct 10, 10:07:51
        
        You got a McDonalds star in two weeks? (n/m) (General Chat) - Brom, Oct 10, 10:09:04
- Bit harsh (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Oct 10, 09:31:38
  - Why haven't you got a student loan? (n/m) (General Chat) - Brom, Oct 10, 09:34:52
    - dont wanna end up in debt so would rather work in the hols to pay my way at uni (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Oct 10, 09:35:54
      - Fair enough... (General Chat) - Brom, Oct 10, 09:42:09
        
        yeah a lot of people think that. (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Oct 10, 09:45:53
        
        But surely if you take out the loan (which is very low interest)... (General Chat) - Brom, Oct 10, 09:53:10

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