In reality, it was all but over

Japan was days away from surrendering and posed absolutely no aggressive threat to Russia, America or China. Hiroshima was purely a statement that founded the basis for Truman's atom-dollar diplomacy which undoubtedly can be seen as the key factor in the development of the Cold War. That Truman and Churchill were never tried for war crimes is a great injustice.

Posted By: Baron on August 10th 2006 at 23:13:59

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Interesting debate I was having earlier (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 21:26:39
- Wrong - there was a military reason re the atomic bombing of Japan (General Chat) - Commisar_Canary, Aug 11, 00:00:10
- The war was not over in japan until after the bomb was dropped, then they surrendered (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Aug 10, 23:01:05
  - and they are still at war with Russia (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:06:58
    - I dont think you are right on that as the Russians were at the signing of the (General Chat) - Commisar_Canary, Aug 11, 00:02:16
      - no its from their war around 1895 (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 11, 00:13:05
    - In reality, it was all but over (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:13:59
      - You need to understand the loss of American and Japanese lives (General Chat) - Commisar_Canary, Aug 11, 00:05:06
        
        There was no need to invade, Japan had no navy left, (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 11, 00:08:59
        
        Because elements of the Japanese military tried to resist the (General Chat) - Commisar_Canary, Aug 11, 10:49:18
      - you are providing an interesting revisionist critique (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:23:08
        
        I am not attempting to post a theory on the cause of the Cold War (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:30:51
        
        Comrade you are forgetting the oppression of the Soviet countries and N. Korea (General Chat) - Commisar_Canary, Aug 11, 00:10:00
        
        As I have mentioned below (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 11, 00:16:57
        
        Any political system is capable of being corrupted by an elite (General Chat) - Commisar_Canary, Aug 11, 10:50:24
        
        I never said you were (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:53:49
        
        Capitalism is a fundamentally flawed system (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 11, 00:00:01
        
        I think you're talking to an ... (General Chat) - bjt, Aug 10, 23:57:05
        
        yes (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:58:49
        
        If you are genuinely educated and support capitalism (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 11, 00:04:46
        
        ha ha (n/m) (General Chat) - bjt, Aug 10, 23:59:39
      - it's a great injustice you were born with the ability to type (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 10, 23:15:38
        
        Perhaps if you had pursued an academic career (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:19:53
        
        Comrade Baron, Pravda would be proud of your propaganda (n/m) (General Chat) - Commisar_Canary, Aug 11, 00:11:27
        
        All I've got is a GOOD Job (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 10, 23:21:44
        
        I admire your ambition, (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:24:51
        
        Comrade Baron under Communism its the minority called the party hacks that cream off all (General Chat) - Commisar_Canary, Aug 11, 00:14:14
        
        That's very defeatist... (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 10, 23:26:59
        
        its also absolute bollocks (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:29:42
        
        Capitalism is a horrific system (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:34:15
        
        Comrade Baron, keep conning the masses - the party hacks are proud of you (n/m) (General Chat) - Commisar_Canary, Aug 11, 00:16:32
        
        Your pitiful attempts masquerading as some kind of a Politburo member (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 11, 00:20:43
        
        As I posted above the party hacks cream off the goodies!!! (n/m) (General Chat) - Commisar_Canary, Aug 11, 10:53:35
        
        you are very confident in your views (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:42:46
        
        My views are substantiated by years of research (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:47:55
        
        Comrade Baron - dont tell 'em but we got cancer in the Soviet Union (n/m) (General Chat) - Commisar_Canary, Aug 11, 00:18:09
        
        Would that be a result of the Capitalist precipitated arms (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 11, 00:29:03
        
        Comrade Baron, if you want pollution try the Peoples Republic of China (n/m) (General Chat) - Commisar_Canary, Aug 11, 10:52:40
        
        I don't believe you've reseached anything (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:50:29
        
        Socialist worker has its merits (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:55:13
        
        now I know you're a wind up (n/m) (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:59:08
    - In reality, it was all but over (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:11:59
      - Comrade Baron - you spout tripe re the dropping of the Atom bombs (n/m) (General Chat) - Commisar_Canary, Aug 11, 00:19:46
      - but they are still technically at war (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:23:28
- "As something of a social pioneer" (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 10, 22:03:33
  - I suppose then that you have (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 22:08:05
    - Comrade Baron - people work whether its a capitalist or a soviet system (General Chat) - Commisar_Canary, Aug 11, 00:22:13
    - I've done that (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 22:56:42
    - mmm. and you're spending your evenings (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 10, 22:13:57
      - I am not so much musing the parallels as providing an introduction (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 22:18:07
        
        Explain the uncontrolled retaliation by the Red Army in Berlin! (n/m) (General Chat) - Commisar_Canary, Aug 11, 00:24:17
        
        It is unjustifiable (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 11, 00:25:53
        
        trying to impress people with your vocabulary (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 10, 22:24:32
        
        it may come as a surprise to you (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:06:43
        
        I would suggest you are Tony Powell's Dress/ Lord of Rock/ etc ... (General Chat) - bjt, Aug 10, 23:26:12
        
        when they are writing academic texts maybe... (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:10:19
        
        When conveying academic ideas and theories (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:16:01
        
        no it isn't (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:24:29
        
        I don't care for your attitude (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 10, 23:18:25
        
        Oasis? (n/m) (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:20:19
        
        Palm Trees (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 10, 23:22:41
        
        I'm intelligent and I'm impressed ... (General Chat) - bjt, Aug 10, 22:34:13
        
        keep it coming (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 26, Aug 10, 22:24:07
    - lol you're quite funny (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 26, Aug 10, 22:10:01
      - humour is but an opiate of the people (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 22:11:14
        
        actually, religion is the opiate of the people (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 22:55:20
        
        haha (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:02:41
        
        au contraire my over confident friend (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:06:09
        
        Religion is the opiate of the people (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:09:17
        
        well done (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:12:28
        
        When Marx wrote that was indeed the case (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:17:26
        
        I ain't talking about Europe brother (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:26:24
        
        But Western Europe is important as ithroughout history (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:40:52
        
        look back before that though (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:49:07
        
        Such civilizations, however, (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:53:08
        
        Best write them off then (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:55:26
        
        Undoubtedly advanced, (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:56:45
        
        I wish it had (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:58:24
        
        Universal vs Western Europe (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 10, 23:19:27
        
        My argument is that the opiate of the people is changing (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:22:43
        
        rubbish! (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:34:02
        
        Capitalism is a system for the selfish (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 23:38:33
        
        Explain the selfishness of people who run socialist / communists countries (General Chat) - Commisar_Canary, Aug 11, 00:28:04
        
        and by the way (General Chat) - Suffolk Yellow, Aug 10, 23:43:27
        
        Capitalism is great - if anyone in the third .. (General Chat) - bjt, Aug 10, 23:43:23
        
        *third world. (n/m) (General Chat) - bjt, Aug 10, 23:44:14
        
        That's what Arcadia is for (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 10, 23:23:28
        
        Have you ever tried haveing sex with a female (General Chat) - SussexCanary, Aug 10, 22:29:41
        
        No .. (General Chat) - bjt, Aug 10, 22:34:58
        
        bollocks (General Chat) - SussexCanary, Aug 10, 22:37:24
        
        Don't forget to correct my spelling mistake (General Chat) - SussexCanary, Aug 10, 22:31:26
- Dresden, was noting compared to the suffering the Soviet Union experienced at.. (General Chat) - Dirty Delia, Aug 10, 21:40:17
  - Soviet Union suffered greatly (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 21:47:23
    - Comrade Baron - you need to do alot more research on the Asian war (General Chat) - Commisar_Canary, Aug 11, 00:30:46
- Twat. Go and post that to people that care. This is a football board. (n/m) (General Chat) - The Baron, Aug 10, 21:36:14
- Too many big words... (n/m) (General Chat) - Klobo04, Aug 10, 21:31:54
- like the majority on here (General Chat) - SCC 26, Aug 10, 21:30:09
  - Oh come on be honest - you are a bit of one aren't you... (n/m) (General Chat) - Muddyfunster, Aug 10, 21:38:58
    - fuck off (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 26, Aug 10, 21:39:18
      - Sorry - meant to be on Baron's message not yours SCC! So I accept the insult (n/m) (General Chat) - Muddyfunster, Aug 10, 21:57:49
        
        lol (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 26, Aug 10, 21:58:54
  - au contraire mikey boy (General Chat) - Baron, Aug 10, 21:35:47
    - the only debate on here (General Chat) - SCC 26, Aug 10, 21:37:42
      - but surely... (General Chat) - Muddyfunster, Aug 10, 21:46:06
        
        What does that say about all the men on here then? (n/m) (General Chat) - SussexCanary, Aug 10, 21:48:46
      - Lets see (n/m) (General Chat) - Berliner Mauer, Aug 10, 21:45:02
      - Is she actually fit? (General Chat) - SussexCanary, Aug 10, 21:43:43
        
        I'll give you onje guess..... (n/m) (General Chat) - Muddyfunster, Aug 10, 21:55:11
        
        errrrrr, where's she from? (General Chat) - SussexCanary, Aug 10, 22:00:09
        
        fuck knows mate (General Chat) - SCC 26, Aug 10, 21:48:10
        
        Please don't ever post the youtube link if they do!!!!!! (n/m) (General Chat) - SussexCanary, Aug 10, 21:49:24

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