The whole England team was just about on a cushy number too

most knew they'd be playing every match, the pressure for places was/is next to nothing

The only time I've really known that to be the case and the team not to give a s**t was the friendly against Denmark

Barring that, I don't think they intentionally don't give 100%, It just occurs naturally as they are seen as indispensible by the coach, fans and still in large parts the media

Posted By: pants on July 5th 2006 at 11:25:23

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Last night showed how utterly shit (Other Football) - duke of york, Jul 5, 10:50:16
- Last night showed nothing about England. (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 5, 10:57:06
  - He's right (ish) (Other Football) - Tomblander, Jul 5, 11:11:13
    - oh no, not that "Sven's formation" excuse again!! (Other Football) - mr carra, Jul 5, 11:27:36
      - we played 441 in the group games actually (Other Football) - Tomblander, Jul 5, 11:30:16
        
        given Lampard's "efforts" I'd have said 4-3-1 at best (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, Jul 5, 11:31:45
        
        He was indispensible, he's the 2nd best player in the world you know? (Other Football) - pants, Jul 5, 11:33:30
        
        in fairness to him when he came 2nd in that award (Other Football) - otbc2006, Jul 5, 11:55:08
        
        Yet if you credit the player who gets the best out of him, this player (Other Football) - pants, Jul 5, 12:01:14
        
        There's someone better? (Other Football) - Tomblander, Jul 5, 11:35:03
        
        Didn't see much of him either (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 5, 11:38:16
        
        He came on for the last 30 minutes v Portugal (Other Football) - Tomblander, Jul 5, 11:40:49
        
        The same useless Fuck who when introduced, England looked a lot better? (n/m) (Other Football) - DiscoDaleGordon, Jul 5, 11:51:03
        
        that was because Lennon had come on for Beckham just before (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, Jul 5, 11:53:23
        
        I think it had more to due with the fact that we had a striker who could hold up the ball (Other Football) - DiscoDaleGordon, Jul 5, 12:10:31
        
        Who waas he holding the ball up for (Other Football) - Tomblander, Jul 5, 12:22:02
        
        No it wasn't! (Other Football) - Charles21, Jul 5, 12:08:08
        
        He held up the ball adequately no more (Other Football) - Tomblander, Jul 5, 12:14:04
        
        he has a point (Other Football) - Tomblander, Jul 5, 11:57:52
        
        So actually, we did very well then (n/m) (Other Football) - Tomblander, Jul 5, 11:32:59
    - The whole England team was just about on a cushy number too (Other Football) - pants, Jul 5, 11:25:23
    - Dived all over the shop probably (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 5, 11:12:22
      - It's become an art form (Other Football) - Tomblander, Jul 5, 11:14:04
        
        NO HE WASN'T, ITALIAN PLAYERS NEVER, EVER CHEAT!!!? (n/m) (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jul 5, 11:18:48
        
        Who said he was cheating? (Other Football) - Tomblander, Jul 5, 11:21:24
        
        Oh yeah (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 5, 11:19:36
        
        Funniest was Grosso acting like he'd (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 5, 11:15:27
        
        er - he got kneed in the head. How do you know it didn't hurt? (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jul 5, 11:23:19
        
        Get out of here (Other Football) - Tomblander, Jul 5, 11:29:01
        
        NO THEY AREN'T (n/m) (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jul 5, 11:29:35
        
        THIRTY POUNDS. (n/m) (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Jul 5, 11:30:57
        
        BOARD VIOLATION! (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jul 5, 11:31:32
        
        EQUALISER! (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jul 5, 11:32:32
        
        "IT'S MASTERS AGAINST SLAVES!!!!" (n/m) (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jul 5, 11:33:03
        
        haha was thinking the same (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jul 5, 11:25:39
        
        Looked like it stung to me. (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 5, 11:24:07
        
        I roared my head off at that fucker (Other Football) - Tomblander, Jul 5, 11:18:32
        
        Then ran off celebrating like he was about to blub (n/m) (Other Football) - conker, Jul 5, 11:16:32
        
        ah yes of course, he should have just ran back to his position all stern faced (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jul 5, 11:24:24
        
        He was definitely trying to "do a Tardelli" if only to get on (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 5, 11:18:13
        
        exactly! (n/m) (Other Football) - conker, Jul 5, 11:28:46
  - Disn't show much (Other Football) - matgore, Jul 5, 11:10:18
    - oh so it's Portugal's fault, if only England had come up against someone good hey (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jul 5, 11:19:53
      - Not Exactly ;-) (Other Football) - matgore, Jul 5, 11:23:41
      - Imagine if we'd had to play a team who was (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 5, 11:21:02
    - Agree (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 5, 11:11:36
  - you're referring to Germany? (Other Football) - mr carra, Jul 5, 11:09:22
    - Agreed. (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jul 5, 11:18:45
    - Erm (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 5, 11:10:15
      - 3% of knowledgeable football fans maybe? (Other Football) - mr carra, Jul 5, 11:18:32
      - It's no coincedence you live in a country who's main currency is hashish (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Jul 5, 11:14:38
        
        You and he are very similar actually (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 5, 11:17:02
        
        No I'm not (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 5, 11:18:17
        
        Well, there are differences. Pants actually seems (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 5, 11:19:07
        
        No he doesn't (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 5, 11:20:01
      - LMAO! (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, Jul 5, 11:11:24
        
        dunno why you laugh. (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jul 5, 11:21:44
        
        You're right (other than I think (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 5, 11:22:47
  - Disagree (Other Football) - duke of york, Jul 5, 11:03:10
    - "a team about twice as good as Portugal" (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 5, 11:07:46
      - You really are a complete prick (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Jul 5, 11:10:03
        
        Obviously not. (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 5, 11:10:53
  - Erase last two words. Sorry! (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 5, 10:59:01
- Do you think Ballack has looked good this WC? (Other Football) - WOTB No1 Tipster 04, Jul 5, 10:54:11
  - I think he's done OK without ever being properly fit (Other Football) - duke of york, Jul 5, 10:57:18

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